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2016 Postmortem

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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:53 AM Oct 2013

The biggest issue with our country - GERRYMANDERING [View all]

Gerrymandering is the reason our country is in this mess. Every 10 years, after the census, Congressional seats are re-aligned for the states and new congressional districts are drawn. For most states (I think there are a few exceptions) they State Government is allowed to create the congressional districts.

I wrote this post back after the 2012 district to highlight just how bad Gerrymandering is. These were the election returns in Pennsylvania, a moderate state that had been heading blue but had a Tea Party takeover in 2010.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021956300

President:
Obama (D): 2.93 million votes
Romney (R): 2.65 million votes

Senate:
Casey (D): 2.94 million votes
Smith (R): 2.45 million votes

Aud General:
Depasquale (D): 2.73 million votes
Maher (R): 2.55 million votes

Attorney General:
Kane (D): 3.13 million votes
Freed (R): 2.31 million votes

Treasurer:
McCord (D): 2.87 million votes
Vaughn (R): 2.41 million votes

Those were the 5 statewide races that PA voters voted on in 2012. Just looking at those 5 elections it was a day of champions for Democrats. Even with all the shenanigans the Republicans tried to do with that heinous voter ID bill, Democrats still won with strong returns for all the state wide votes.

And yet out of 18 house seats the democrats only won FIVE of them. BUt look at the overall vote for PA House:

All Democrat House Candidates: 2.72 million 2otes
All Republican House Candidates: 2.65 million votes


It's not just Pennsylvania - it's all states and yes some of the states, like California, it's done in favor of the Democrats. However the majority of the Gerrymandering issues are in GOP states.

I've been doing more reading this year and far less posting and the one thing I have found common across the intertubes is this - We need to vote these bums out in 2014.

Well here's the issue - we can't.

It's just nearly impossible especially for the US House. The GOP has done enough Gerrymandering out there that will ensure that they keep the US House in their control for a long long time even if the majority of the people are voting Democrat. And that means we're going to see more and more bickering like the current Government shutdown.

In the end it's not the people that are being represented. Clearly in 2012 Pennsylvanians wanted to let Democrats run things but Gerrymandering forced them to elect GOP for 13 of their 18 Congressional seats. Texas is a mess and thanks to the Supreme Court the rest of the South will soon fix their congressional seats to ensure even less democrats are elected to house seats.

We need to fix Gerrymandering. There are some states out west that now Gerrymander to Bi-partisan committees but in a nutshell if you live in a state with more than one US House member there's a good chance your state is Gerrymandered. And if your state is Gerrymandered there's a good chance you're stuck with your US House member until he/she dies, retires or gets caught in a massive scandal (although that hasn't stopped Michelle Bachmann from getting re-elected).

End Gerrymandering - let the people voice who they want as their elected officials by power of the vote!
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Gerrymandering......without which: DFW Oct 2013 #1
The Big Question: HOW??? Yupy Oct 2013 #2
Well we may be stuck until 2022 but.... LynneSin Oct 2013 #3
State Races Are Most Important Right Now!!!! redstatebluegirl Oct 2013 #26
In Canada, electoral districts are determined by an independent commission JBoy Oct 2013 #10
republicans always have to cheat/game the system for votes. Sunlei Oct 2013 #4
National Popular Vote fredamae Oct 2013 #5
Some swing states are trying to use gerrymandered districts to change the electoral college. Jim__ Oct 2013 #7
NPV is a start, anyway fredamae Oct 2013 #9
Didn't this come up about a year ago? Rstrstx Oct 2013 #12
Wow-I hadn't heard about that fredamae Oct 2013 #13
Yes. That US News story is from January. Jim__ Oct 2013 #14
That only fixes the way the nationwide office - president - is elected muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #23
No-POTUS Elections... fredamae Oct 2013 #25
Using your numbers: rgbecker Oct 2013 #6
AND if Corbett and the GOP Republicans have their way LynneSin Oct 2013 #8
Not sure if even that would work modrepub Oct 2013 #18
Obama would have won it in 2008, but in 2012, Romney won it 50.4% to 48.5% muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #24
Poor Jerry Mander is going to be ribbed for this incessantly. Kablooie Oct 2013 #11
This is exactly what happened in NC. mnhtnbb Oct 2013 #15
This is such an important issue but I don't see much action on this matter Yupy Oct 2013 #16
You are ignoring the main problem. former9thward Oct 2013 #17
But didn't the Supreme Court overrule that in their previous ruling a few months ago LynneSin Oct 2013 #19
No, the majority minority districts were not contested. former9thward Oct 2013 #20
We lost in 2010 because we stayed home instead of voting 4dsc Oct 2013 #21
Correct but because we stayed home and didn't vote.... LynneSin Oct 2013 #32
Honestly Dwayne Hicks Oct 2013 #22
Agreed. We had a Green in the State House who had his district gerrymandered out from under him, but GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #27
Money causes the corruption in politics. Money allows the gerrymandering. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #29
Money and an insane desire for power. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #30
Couldn't agree more underpants Oct 2013 #28
Unless otherwise legally overturned, voter registration and GOTV ffr Oct 2013 #31
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