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2016 Postmortem

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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:31 PM Jan 2013

We don't have enough lipstick for this pig. [View all]

I've read numerous efforts here to justify or excuse the Senate's failure to reform the filibuster in any meaningful way. Those of us who feel outraged and betrayed are being told, essentially, that we just "don't understand" how politics works; that Harry Reid just had no choice; that only those who just fell off the turnip truck thought there was a chance that we'd restore the talking filibuster.

We were told, in no uncertain tems, that reform would happen. "Damn betcha"---Harry Reid.
It not only didn't happen: he didn't try to make it happen. While he was assuring us in folksy terms (see just above) that the Merkley reforms would be implemented, he did not want the Merkley reforms. Or so he now says.

When the other side does that---and it's getting difficult to tell just who is on the "other side", lately---we call them lying sons of bitches. (Obvious next line self-censored) McConnell, by the way, is already raising funds claiming to have "defeated the liberals" on the filibuster.

I'm sorry, but corporate blue dog Democrats aren't Democrats, in my view. If saying that means I'm on the wrong forum, the Admins can let me know.

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I agree! My thoughts exactly. Isoldeblue Jan 2013 #1
My favorite excuse is "we need the current rules when we're the minority" DJ13 Jan 2013 #2
If we're the minority and was to filibuster mindwalker_i Jan 2013 #6
it is a defeatist attitude. If Dems implemented a truly progressive agenda, there would be no worry corkhead Jan 2013 #25
+100 truebluegreen Jan 2013 #28
Of course! Ian Iam Jan 2013 #33
Don't be afraid to say what we all know. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #3
Carlin was right. bvar22 Jan 2013 #13
+1 zeemike Jan 2013 #18
This is the correct answer. woo me with science Jan 2013 #37
K&R forestpath Jan 2013 #4
2 comments: first, we did get something. not much, but how many previous attempts yielded nada? unblock Jan 2013 #5
Nope, he had the votes. Or so he said. jeff47 Jan 2013 #7
all the fuss is just about the difference between 41 to stop vs. 60 to go? really? unblock Jan 2013 #9
No, it's also about relying on McConnell's word. Again. jeff47 Jan 2013 #32
If you get a crumb when you need a meal you'll still starve nt HomerRamone Jan 2013 #10
you ain't getting a meal as long as the republicans control the house. unblock Jan 2013 #22
Another fail, another alibi pscot Jan 2013 #26
another pointless whine. seriously, what gets passed if we even did away with filibuster entirely? unblock Jan 2013 #30
We, the people Old Codger Jan 2013 #20
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I have a lot of faith in Senator Reid. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #8
I Disagree nvme Jan 2013 #23
I heard Reid was a Marine. Some Marine. Well, I guess if Mr Rogers could do it. Pretty surprising to judesedit Jan 2013 #11
Harry PROMISED filibuster reform Canuckistanian Jan 2013 #12
And there was reform enacted, just not what everyone wanted. Coyotl Jan 2013 #19
But turtle man PROMISED that he would'nt abuse it again this time ! penndragon69 Jan 2013 #14
I've Decided this was a Pretty Shewed Move for Harry and President Obama SEMOVoter Jan 2013 #15
Makes sense to me. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #16
Ignorant Canadian here Rainforestgoddess Jan 2013 #17
I've never met an ignorant Canadian... SEMOVoter Jan 2013 #21
Ignorant as to the ways of US politics, anyway. Rainforestgoddess Jan 2013 #34
That's a killer fantasy life you got there, bro pscot Jan 2013 #27
Harry got a handshake. The rest of us got a handjob. russspeakeasy Jan 2013 #24
Of the top twenty ranked by seniority, Barbara Mikulski or Diane Feinstein are the only two ancianita Jan 2013 #29
I was reading an article that said they didn't think Feinstein backed the filibuster reform. I guess okaawhatever Jan 2013 #38
I guess that takes me down to Mikulski. But the point is that no one wants his job. ancianita Jan 2013 #39
I understand how you feel Dragonfli Jan 2013 #31
Who's on first? polynomial Jan 2013 #35
Harry Reid is a foolish old man that just got taken to the cleaners by the GOP UCmeNdc Jan 2013 #36
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