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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: The ambiguity on trade cost us the Upper Midwest. [View all]gollygee
(22,336 posts)55. I bet the TPP gets passed very quickly once the GOP has the house, senate, and presidency
The irony is that we are going to have a very establishment Pence/Ryan presidency. They'll pass free trade agreements like nobody's business. There will be nothing anti-establishment about this presidency.
I think that racism was the first issue that cost us the election. Don't underestimate the racism of people in the upper midwest. It's a really big issue here. People loved the racist barbs Trump threw around. That was the biggest thing I heard people Trump supporters respond to. They ate it up.
But yeah trade was up there too.
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It's not just the platform, it's that we didn't talk about working people at all.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#8
maybe she should've run on issues rather than Trump said this and said that.
Cobalt Violet
Nov 2016
#39
No, that wasn't it. Trump was able to connect with these people in their gut in a way Democrats
geek tragedy
Nov 2016
#2
Globalization is not the only factor. Automation and robotics killed plenty of jobs also.
LonePirate
Nov 2016
#4
OK, but we didn't address that, either. We said nothing about jobs and fear of want at all.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#6
Your suggestions are worth pursuing. Maybe Dems at the local level can start the process.
LonePirate
Nov 2016
#13
White rural voters won it in the upper MW on race not what was in the platform
book_worm
Nov 2016
#7
I agree completely - it was the messenger, not the platform wording that lost it for us.
hueymahl
Nov 2016
#59
I'm as much a Dem as you are. I have as much right to identify as part of the party as you do.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#20
as a Clinton supporter from the start, there are many reasons, so many confluences as to why we lost
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#30
Thank you. It is DU'ers with YOUR open attitude that will make the difference
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#32
Hillary Clinton WON by a million votes and counting. The Electoral College has got to go.
Hekate
Nov 2016
#36
We all agree with you about the Electoral College. Nobody here defends that institution.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#53
Great article. Germany does not 'protect their industries' with tariffs of other import restrictions
pampango
Nov 2016
#85
Yet a good chunk of the Trump voters are good old boys who like Bill Clinton more than Hillary.
pnwmom
Nov 2016
#83
Some felt, I'm guessing, that voting for the GOP Senate candidate would help Trump get stuff done.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#47
I bet the TPP gets passed very quickly once the GOP has the house, senate, and presidency
gollygee
Nov 2016
#55
And nobody is saying it ISN'T a major factor, OR that we shouldn't speak out about it.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#62
Sorry...it sounded like you were another person saying it was racism and nothing else.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#69