2016 Postmortem

Trust Buster

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11. I understand political power. Unless you've been living in a cave the last 7 years, the Democrats

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:25 AM

Jun 2016

do not have the political power in Congress to deliver anything close to what Sanders was promising mostly college students. What Sanders supporters fail to understand is that Sanders himself moved the goal post. He started out as an issues candidate making far reaching proposals. He caught fire and became a contender but still acted like an issues candidate instead of a candidate who was seeking a 4 year term. That's on him.

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Powerfully and beautifully said, my dear jillan! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2016 #1

Thank you my dear Peggy. I has saddened me to see people who haven't wanted to understand. jillan Jun 2016 #2

They can not help themselves. They have been raised as authoritarian followers. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #15

"Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not" jillan Jun 2016 #31

I think being an authoritarian is more a matter of inherent personality than training Fumesucker Jun 2016 #71

Exactly, and short enogh for people to finish reading WayBeyondBlue Jun 2016 #3

There really is nothing more to it than that - telling the people to wake up and get involved. jillan Jun 2016 #5

Spot on. Thank you. n/t TDale313 Jun 2016 #4

Kick and Rec! +1000! Jackilope Jun 2016 #6

Just one fuckin problem with all that above.... pkdu Jun 2016 #7

It didn't happen 8 - 12 years ago did it? So we shouldn't try now? jillan Jun 2016 #10

IMO the problem is that it has been being done for decades azurnoir Jun 2016 #45

By all means try now , from the bottom up , don't think pkdu Jun 2016 #49

Bingo. That's what they fail to get. #Rose colored glasses Trust Buster Jun 2016 #12

it could have happened 8 years ago booley Jun 2016 #16

Like I tried to explain, you either get it or you don't. jillan Jun 2016 #17

that has been one of the most frustrating things about this primary booley Jun 2016 #39

Right now the slogan is "I'm Not Trump" Jackilope Jun 2016 #61

.+1 840high Jun 2016 #65

probably hard when she would have to have it cleared first booley Jun 2016 #72

Did Bernie go to bat for Obama? Did he get out there in 2010 one_voice Jun 2016 #44

Yes Bernie campaigned for Obama! He helped Obama get his legislation passed in the Senate. In 2012 jillan Jun 2016 #51

small correction it was actually 2011 when Bernie suggested that perhaps Obama should be primaried azurnoir Jun 2016 #69

And There You Have It WayBeyondBlue Jun 2016 #23

It has to start at some point. It didn't fucking get done 8-12 years ago but least Bernie tried Autumn Jun 2016 #28

Well fucking said! jalan48 Jun 2016 #47

only it isnt failing you have to start sometime swhisper1 Jun 2016 #30

Just the language you use in your post says it all Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #37

if we don't do it now...where will we be in another 8-12 years? virtualobserver Jun 2016 #53

#1: Are you fucking kidding me with that!? 8 -12 years ago!? Impossible! Phlem Jun 2016 #70

Not impossible just full of entitled people looking for a savior .... we'll see, Sanders will be uponit7771 Jun 2016 #76

Thank you. librarylu Jun 2016 #8

Thanks, jillan. elleng Jun 2016 #9

I understand political power. Unless you've been living in a cave the last 7 years, the Democrats Trust Buster Jun 2016 #11

the first step in negotiating is aim as high as you can booley Jun 2016 #20

Exactly! Jackilope Jun 2016 #26

No, the very first step in negotiations is to acquire the political power to bring your opponent to Trust Buster Jun 2016 #33

Republicans didn't have to do that booley Jun 2016 #42

I don't agree with that theory creeksneakers2 Jun 2016 #35

On the contrary booley Jun 2016 #46

Bernie is now advocating for a grass roots effort to regain that political power. yodermon Jun 2016 #22

And that's the proper order of things. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #34

he wants a fifty generation term,you dont get it swhisper1 Jun 2016 #25

And now for a musical interlude... LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #13

It's a Revolution to restore power to its rightful owners... Octafish Jun 2016 #14

Exactly! jillan Jun 2016 #18

Yes! 840high Jun 2016 #66

And that is how it shall be. Thank you. kr PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #19

WONDERFUL, THANX! swhisper1 Jun 2016 #21

My pleasure :) jillan Jun 2016 #24

Same thing Obama said, it's about us, not just them uppityperson Jun 2016 #27

The don't want any of us to do these things Hydra Jun 2016 #29

flys in the face of self respect swhisper1 Jun 2016 #38

Remember when law enforcement didn't bat an eye at Jackilope Jun 2016 #52

You did an excellent job of capturing each and every of... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #32

That is awesome that you are thinking about it! Yay! I hope you do. jillan Jun 2016 #40

Many of us did get it and still do. Marie Marie Jun 2016 #36

Here! Here! Many of us will never be the same. He changed our way of looking at jillan Jun 2016 #43

the tweets from young people tonight hopemountain Jun 2016 #41

I guess 3.5 million more actual voters rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #48

Way to miss the entire point of this. The real votes are how many Bernie supporters will run jillan Jun 2016 #50

I have long wanted to tell how glad we're on the same side of history. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #54

You too! We've both been on DU for an eternity, haven't we? jillan Jun 2016 #56

Wonderful, and I will senseandsensibility Jun 2016 #55

That IS the bottom line. Rec x 1 billion BigBearJohn Jun 2016 #57

You've been one of the bright spots on DU. jillan Jun 2016 #58

Bernie is trying to build a real progressive movement andym Jun 2016 #59

Huge K&R! Phlem Jun 2016 #60

If you run for office, make sure you let everyone know you are a socialist. That works well. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #62

I hope you opted out of social security benefits, medicare and that you stay off of jillan Jun 2016 #64

Thank you for posting! Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #63

Thank you Jillian felix_numinous Jun 2016 #67

Kick with love for Bernie 840high Jun 2016 #68

kick 'n' rec! pat_k Jun 2016 #73

truth! lakeguy Jun 2016 #74

K & R --- posted a link to your OP on my Facebook page Petrushka Jun 2016 #75

If "he wants you to vote", why isn't he against Caucasus? lunamagica Jun 2016 #77

I am SO afraid of her losing cause she sucks so bad as a candidate, and of course, now, pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #78

Great post! TrueDemVA Jun 2016 #79

Oh, a lot of us "got it" ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #80

If it was never about Bernie, why is his name and not the party's plastered all over his new GIFs? ucrdem Jun 2016 #81