2016 Postmortem

Octafish

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169. PR bailout plan will pay Wall Street and make Puerto Rico live in utter austerity.

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 03:24 PM

Jun 2016

Sotomayor and Ginsburg opposed the corporate welfare plan; Ms. Kagan joined with Roberts etc. in the ruling which says the Commonwealth can't restructure its debt.

http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/283249-supreme-court-puerto-rico-cant-restructure-debt

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Hillary 2016: How she transformed Democrats into “new” Republicans [View all] NorthCarolina Jun 2016 OP

... LexVegas Jun 2016 #1

Move over... stevenleser Jun 2016 #4

rofl BootinUp Jun 2016 #18

Panda. Monkey. Banana. Octafish Jun 2016 #28

Of course not. Why would I? It was written to get clicks from sad Bernie supporters. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #43

To learn. Octafish Jun 2016 #47

The title of that article identifies it as nonsense... IMHO. BootinUp Jun 2016 #53

You shared your opinion without reading the article, though. Octafish Jun 2016 #56

THat's correct, lol. Oh, stop it please. BootinUp Jun 2016 #58

Willful or inborn, Hortensis Jun 2016 #85

Tick tock. Meanwhile... Hekate Jun 2016 #123

It's called self reflection of the party... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #138

OMFG...and DUers, desperate to demolish the Dem nominee, buy this shit and propogate it's message Sheepshank Jun 2016 #69

Sould I bring extra butter? Hekate Jun 2016 #121

The clock is ticking on this shit... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #144

Tick tock redstateblues Jun 2016 #2

Seriously. Can't wait for this nonsense to end. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #5

What nonsense? Talking about how Democrats and Republicans are the same? Octafish Jun 2016 #33

SCOTUS metroins Jun 2016 #55

Like Elena Kagan? Friend of Tony Scalia? Sides with Karl Rove over Don Siegelman? Octafish Jun 2016 #59

The ridiculous assertion by so called purists, requires that public officials live in a bubble Sheepshank Jun 2016 #72

I'm not demonizing anybody, not even you, Sheepshank. Octafish Jun 2016 #78

You clearly attempt to demonize Kagan Sheepshank Jun 2016 #82

Demonize by stating the facts about her association with Scalia? Octafish Jun 2016 #83

Oh damn, that creepy made up, pretend problem of association. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #86

Nothing made up, otherwise you'd show it, Sheepshank. Octafish Jun 2016 #90

Well look at that - the meaningless excuses and whitewashing stopped !!!!!!!! vintx Jun 2016 #165

PR bailout plan will pay Wall Street and make Puerto Rico live in utter austerity. Octafish Jun 2016 #169

What a shock. Neo-liberals are as utterly bereft of morals as neo-cons. vintx Jun 2016 #171

'Dollar Phil Gramm' and Bill Clinton @ UBS Octafish Jun 2016 #172

At the old DU, this would have been an issue for most. vintx Jun 2016 #173

i'm disgusted with kagan. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #127

Yes, that's right. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #93

Really? Vox is not Nader, it's KOS and cronies. Octafish Jun 2016 #97

Claiming that Democrats and Republicans are the same is the essence of Naderite "thought." -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #98

Where did I claim that? As you can't, you're just smearing. Octafish Jun 2016 #99

The OP's article specifically says that the Democratic Party has become the Republican Party. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #120

Which is different from me saying that, though. Octafish Jun 2016 #122

You said it all right. You just disingenuously phrased it as a sort of question, sort of quote... Hekate Jun 2016 #124

No, it's what I asked stevenleser, then I got ''answers'' from you, Lord Magus, Sheepshank... Octafish Jun 2016 #145

Once again the whitewashing and excuses are silenced vintx Jun 2016 #168

One more day rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #37

Yes. To some, truth is nonsense. To others is it a little bump in the libdem4life Jun 2016 #132

Nope, nonsense is nonsense. No melodramatics from Hillary haters will change that. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #134

And no nonsense from someone who hasn't a clue if I "Hate Hillary". libdem4life Jun 2016 #143

No, no, no. There's no election manipulation going on. Just "clerical errors" or so I was told ... Scuba Jun 2016 #3

Ha! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #6

1 day Tarc Jun 2016 #7

The fall of Salon.com Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #8

And they're one of the dumber sites for actually paying for HA Garbageman's content. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #19

+1000 Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #96

Good article Howler Jun 2016 #9

Hit home in a lot of areas for me. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #10

Yes. Howler Jun 2016 #14

You are free to go elsewhere rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #46

Wow. This is really what you're going to go with, huh? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #63

That "tiny angry minority of angry far leftists" are not really so tiny......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #87

You're the one whose transparency page is showing AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #91

You're just jealous. arcane1 Jun 2016 #100

You are free to go elsewhere with that retrograde, conservative enabling and assimilating TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #110

Conservative crap is allowed on DU now as long as it's not directed at a Clinton. arcane1 Jun 2016 #141

Bingo. n/t QC Jun 2016 #157

What is posted in the OP is reflected in the responses. -none Jun 2016 #11

Right here LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #29

Posting facts is not bashing. -none Jun 2016 #65

He lost LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #70

IRONIC ISN'T IT? KPN Jun 2016 #101

Denial is only a symptom of the real problem. -none Jun 2016 #146

I see threads from Sanders supporters who claim that Hillary supporters are ungracious winners. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #12

Ungracious winner would be a step up in class. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #22

Deflection. This thread calls Hillary and her supporters Republicans. How is this acceptable ? Trust Buster Jun 2016 #23

No more deflection than your comment. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #24

This OP refers to Hillary and her supporters as Republicans. This is wrong. We don't need a Trust Buster Jun 2016 #27

Q.E.D. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #35

You are acting childish IMO. Good bye. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #36

... hobbit709 Jun 2016 #45

No, it doesn't. The article shows Hillary's candidacy transforming the Democratic Party rightward. Octafish Jun 2016 #38

Enjoy your final day of irresponsibility. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #41

Wrong: I won't abide by the Democrats becoming Republicans. Octafish Jun 2016 #49

With Hillary at the helm NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #64

I hope so. Is that what she told Pete Peterson? Octafish Jun 2016 #67

That's primary season rhetoric. Kind of akin to when NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #68

Rhetoric is the art of persuasive speaking. Octafish Jun 2016 #71

+1 JudyM Jun 2016 #76

Hillary Clinton supporters appear "scorched earth" regards other good Democrats PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #66

These Clinton supports are so blind of how right wing they have become. coyote Jun 2016 #13

You're just like those Republicans who call modern Democrats "the real racists" because of the 50s. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #17

What do you think about New Dem economics that help the RICH first and foremost? Octafish Jun 2016 #42

You got any dirt on Donald Trump? Because I'd be very interested emulatorloo Jun 2016 #81

Guy's in it up to the gills. Octafish Jun 2016 #88

The Democratic Party that brought Social Security, which the Republicans fought? valerief Jun 2016 #73

You're being too kind. n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #108

Of course republicans of that era voted more for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats did. pampango Jun 2016 #31

Someone else who's geographically challenged. seabeckind Jun 2016 #107

Conservative Southerners used to be Democrats. Many Northern republicans were liberal. pampango Jun 2016 #112

You're fixated on the label, aren't you? seabeckind Jun 2016 #113

All of those are in the Democratic Party platform NOW. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #94

If you look from a historical standpoint, seabeckind Jun 2016 #111

+1 harun Jun 2016 #125

Salon's garbage. Her platform is the most progressive for a nom possibly ever. That's not enough? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #15

Whew. Never saw such communicable blindness. Most progressive?! There are no words. JudyM Jun 2016 #80

Her platform is slightly left of Obama, which was slightly left of Clinton. So yes. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #95

Not on war or peace issues. She's even to the Right of Trump. leveymg Jun 2016 #154

To the right? She's continuing Obama's policies. Remember, he was President for Syria, Libya, etc. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #156

HRC and Petraeus left after the first term. Remember? That's no coincidence. leveymg Jun 2016 #158

Surely you jest. 840high Jun 2016 #118

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #16

There was no room to say anything LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #25

"there is a real allergic reaction to truth in the Clinton camp." Herman4747 Jun 2016 #20

The truth is as relevant now arikara Jun 2016 #153

Did HA Goodman get a job at Salon? leftofcool Jun 2016 #21

"Nowhere is there an argument about the merits of her platform" Dem2 Jun 2016 #26

Get it out of your system - times running out left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #30

You know if Skinner changes GD:P to GD:Creative Writing ucrdem Jun 2016 #32

. . . Triana Jun 2016 #34

Perfect. Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #152

Ut oh.... peace13 Jun 2016 #39

"DU need a name change?" jack_krass Jun 2016 #170

"Progressive" group-think. wyldwolf Jun 2016 #40

I believe the slide to neoliberalism occurred before Hillary Arazi Jun 2016 #44

Yep, long about 1985 when the DLC decided to shift right. seabeckind Jun 2016 #106

I'm sure that argument has been made since the beginning of the parties... Stellar Jun 2016 #48

Meanwhile, Clinton Widens National Lead wyldwolf Jun 2016 #50

This post and the responses to it, illustrate the giant rift in the party. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #51

DU is not remotely representative of reality. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #52

Well lets hope he remains the opposition. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #54

True. KPN Jun 2016 #103

It's true, the merits of HRC's policies are seldom discussed. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #57

More war doesn't earn one a merit badge. nt valerief Jun 2016 #75

The merits at this point are meaningless since she KPN Jun 2016 #104

Very true. /nt Marr Jun 2016 #115

Salon is a joke workinclasszero Jun 2016 #60

We're not there yet, but... Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #61

Agree. In fact this election the largest unrepresented bloc of voters....... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #92

Kickin' for the truth! Faux pas Jun 2016 #62

Two more days for truth and then... valerief Jun 2016 #74

This seems fitting.... pkdu Jun 2016 #77

This seems more fitting: Herman4747 Jun 2016 #128

Let it all out, all of it...but hurry. Nt pkdu Jun 2016 #136

June 16th 2016. nt William769 Jun 2016 #79

The day the propaganda can be catapulted unhindered. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #84

The day Baghdad Bob cease to exist. William769 Jun 2016 #89

Octafish forever! Kurovski Jun 2016 #102

I saw this lefty wingnut shit at the top of /r/politics Dem2 Jun 2016 #105

Ahh, so you agree that this article represents a liberal viewpoint? seabeckind Jun 2016 #109

No, wingnuts means it's people that are trying to destroy the party Dem2 Jun 2016 #114

You mean they make you uncomfortable about your definition? seabeckind Jun 2016 #129

How utterly ironic coming from the "my way or the highway" crowd! Dem2 Jun 2016 #135

You have these delusions often? seabeckind Jun 2016 #137

OK, later Dem2 Jun 2016 #139

Make sure you tell everyone you were bullied. seabeckind Jun 2016 #142

the real danger is that this leaves a party experienced in defeating only one sort of foe: Dems MisterP Jun 2016 #116

The grapes, they are sour. Buzz cook Jun 2016 #117

To be fair, the bland ineffectuality of the Republican side... Orsino Jun 2016 #119

I can't help feeling that Trump won't be the opponent. seabeckind Jun 2016 #133

Well, I've been predicting he'd quit (again) since last summer... Orsino Jun 2016 #159

lose harder? seabeckind Jun 2016 #160

I think we'll find that a great deal of his support doesn't exist. Orsino Jun 2016 #161

That's very true. seabeckind Jun 2016 #162

But Trump always folds. Orsino Jun 2016 #163

Again... not-Trump. seabeckind Jun 2016 #164

Not-Trump is going to be a true loser strategy for the GOP Orsino Jun 2016 #166

tick-tock.. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #126

The purge is coming. seabeckind Jun 2016 #130

K & R imagine2015 Jun 2016 #131

I WILL VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS !!!! erlewyne Jun 2016 #140

A myopic and misleading analysis. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #147

DUrec PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #148

move over Ann Coulter. Never have I read such tendentious, non-sequitur fucking bullshit and lies Bill USA Jun 2016 #149

She's like a human austerity measure RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #150

Oh, that is so right on! Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #151

Methinks the record is corrected too much. bleever Jun 2016 #155

I think the idea that Hillary converted Democrats into New Republicans is silly andym Jun 2016 #167

The fly in the ointment there NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #175

This exactly vintx Jun 2016 #176

I would distinguish between an establishment candidate and an insurgent who ended up supporting andym Jun 2016 #177

The thing is NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #178

He rarely took the bully pulpit for anything andym Jun 2016 #179

K&R n/t bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #174