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HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
48. ...influence...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93937947

'The 1968 reforms did one very big thing: put the voters, not the party leaders, in charge of choosing candidates. That made come-from-nowhere candidates possible. And since nominees are now picked in primaries and caucuses, the conventions became mainly a performance space - good thing or bad thing?'

outcome of '68 convention through '80, the poser of the people on full display, directly affecting DEM convention process and rules

'1968-72 Rules: A commission headed by Sen. George McGovern produced a set of guidelines in 1972 requiring delegates to "fairly reflect" their state's preferences among presidential candidates. In addition, the makeup of each delegation had to be "in reasonable relationship" to the proportion of minority groups, women and young people in its home state. No more than 10% of a delegation could be named by a state's Democratic Committee. Rules requiring the "timely selection" of delegates, publicizing meetings at which delegates were chosen and public notification of a delegate's candidate preference were enacted.
As a result of the changes, there were challenges filed against more than 40% of the delegates selected for the convention. Perhaps the most notorious battle involved the revocation of the credentials of 58 Illinois delegates led by Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley and the awarding of their seats to an alternate delegation led by Jesse Jackson. (Sources: The National Journal, August 23, 1980; St. Petersburg Times, July 17, 1988; Congressional Quarterly's Guide to U.S. Elections.)

1976 Rules: A commission headed by Rep. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland replaced the demographic quotas of 1972 with affirmative action requirements to increase participation by women, blacks and other minorities. (However, this specific plan had the OPPOSITE effect, decreasing the proportion of women from 38% in 1972 to 36% in 1976. The proportion of blacks declined from 15% in 1972 to 7% in 1976. After 1976, quotas for women delegates were reimposed.) PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION, the distribution of delegates among candidates to reflect their share of the primary or caucus vote, was mandated by party rules. (Sources: The National Journal, August 23, 1980; Congressional Quarterly's Guide to U.S. Elections.)

1980 Rules: A floor vote resulted in passage of a party rule binding delegates to vote on the first ballot for the candidate they originally were elected to support. (This was a defeat for Sen. Edward Kennedy, who was hoping to convince Carter delegates to abandon the president on the first ballot.) As a result of recommendations by a commission under the chairmanship of Michigan party chairman Morley Winograd, the Democrats abolished LOOPHOLE PRIMARIES -- where winner-take-all balloting still had been allowed at the congressional district level. Beginning with the 1980 convention, the Democrats took steps to increase attendance by state party officials and elected party leaders -- governors, senators and members of Congress. (Although such officials' convention attendance had been declining since the 1956 convention, their numbers had dropped precipitously after the 1972 convention.) States were urged to assign at-large seats to party leaders and elected officials. (Source: The National Journal, August 23, 1980)'
recommended n/t ruggerson Jun 2016 #1
Thank you. There's an election to win. MineralMan Jun 2016 #2
I'm not sure she would accept what I would recommend. HassleCat Jun 2016 #3
Perhaps you're right. However, in 2008, Barack Obama MineralMan Jun 2016 #7
She takes no salary from CGI so I am missing your point I guess. Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #9
Yes, I see your point. HassleCat Jun 2016 #12
Excellent points. athena Jun 2016 #13
Agreed and here is another suggestion Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #4
Well, that's always true. There are many elected offices. MineralMan Jun 2016 #8
"If those who supported Senator Sanders get behind her campaign,"... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #5
Yes, one might say that, too, but it is unrealistic. MineralMan Jun 2016 #10
The fact that listening to Bernie supporters is considered "unrealistic" by the establishment NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #14
^^ This ^^ Scuba Jun 2016 #22
Yes the process is binary... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #15
I refer you to something I wrote on April 24: Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #6
You are one person with one vote. MineralMan Jun 2016 #11
consider me dissatisfied. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #16
How about this approach regards my own post-primary pivot? PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #17
I don't think HRC is interested in offering me or any other Sanders supporter anything. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #18
This is an ironic one. Just, she actually listens to the people. What so many criticize about her, seabeyond Jun 2016 #19
Naive post. She cares solely about what is good for her. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #20
Oh, so that's why she had her surrogates insult Sanders' supporters WolverineDG Jun 2016 #21
That's so cute, thinking that she would actually change based on what voters want. Adorable. Scuba Jun 2016 #23
Why should she be any different than other politicians? athena Jun 2016 #24
She won't be different (see below) and I never expect any pol to match my beliefs, exactly (canard). Scuba Jun 2016 #26
Naive as in: "Sanders can still win the nomination"? brooklynite Jun 2016 #25
Link please, as I don't recall ever posting such statements. Scuba Jun 2016 #27
But you were equally dismissive when you fellow Sanders supporters did? brooklynite Jun 2016 #29
So now you're claiming "phantom" approval? Get a life. Scuba Jun 2016 #30
She already knows what 'we' (I) think. She has known it for, what 26 years. pangaia Jun 2016 #28
The problem is that what she promises to get elected Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #31
Those are your assumptions about what she will do. MineralMan Jun 2016 #32
Past is prologue Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #33
She'll pivot right the second she thinks it's safe to do so. Arugula Latte Jun 2016 #34
Excellent OP. Thanks. oasis Jun 2016 #35
So if I show her support she'll campaign to end the War on Drugs, B Calm Jun 2016 #36
I can't speak for Hillary Clinton. MineralMan Jun 2016 #39
Lobby our delegates, nominee and office-holders unceasingly... Orsino Jun 2016 #37
Lobbying is a good idea. Here's what I have found: MineralMan Jun 2016 #40
people power HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #38
OK. But, I think the convention will be a peaceful one, MineralMan Jun 2016 #41
which holds more power in the end... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #42
Based on history, what happens on the convention floor MineralMan Jun 2016 #43
...influence... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #48
I've followed every convention since 1960. MineralMan Jun 2016 #49
...incorrect... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #50
I haven't previously seen an election season..... MaggieD Jun 2016 #44
Bernie's support included a lot of people who would MineralMan Jun 2016 #46
Don't I wish I could believe that. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #45
You will do as you choose to do. MineralMan Jun 2016 #47
Sorry, but you have reversed the process in your mind,imo. sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #51
She has not made an auspicious start tularetom Jun 2016 #52
As I have been saying for a solid year AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #55
Good post Mineral Man! Excellent points. nt Mr Maru Jun 2016 #53
Loved her Palinesque "Word salad" answer when confronted by someone going broke with Obamacare AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #54
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