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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What role does anti-semitism play among those opposing Bernie Sanders? [View all]frazzled
(18,402 posts)130. Let's ask the Jews
(Of which I am one--a very secular one, like Bernie, if that matters at all). Although no exit polls did a breakdown of voters by religion, several polls suggest that Jewish voters went largely for Clinton:
The best evidence so far comes from two recent polls of New York voters.
The Sienna College Poll, which has a long track record of surveying New York voters, found Clinton leading Sanders among Jewish voters 60%-38%. That's almost as large as her lead among black voters, the poll found. Overall, she led 52%-42%, the poll found.
African Americans make up about 20% of the expected turnout for the Democratic primary, the poll projected. Jews make up just over 10%.
The NBC/Wall St. Journal/Marist poll found roughly the same breakdown, Clinton leading among Jews 65%-32%, part of an overall lead of 57%-40%. That poll pegged Jewish voters as likely to make up 16% of the electorate for the primary.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-live-updates-democr-sanders-fares-poorly-against-clinton-with-fellow-j-1460644902-htmlstory.html
Did that pan out in the actual primary? It would seem so:
While the exit polls did not provide any breakdown of the Jewish vote, we can make some assumptions by looking at how the vote went in neighborhoods with large numbers of Jews.
In Borough Park, Brooklyn, one of the most Jewish precincts in the country, Hillary Clintons margin of victory, 61.3 percent to Bernie Sanders 38.7 percent, was slightly narrower than her citywide victory of 63.4-36.6 percent. Borough Park had 3,930 Democratic votes cast.
In the heavily Chabad-Lubavitch Brooklyn neighborhood of Crown Heights South, Clinton won 63.8 percent of the vote to Sanders 36.2 percent, out of 5,374 total Democratic voters. In the heavily Satmar neighborhood of Williamsburg, Brooklyn, Clinton beat Sanders 61-39 percent out of 1,077 Democratic votes.
Clinton did much better on Manhattans Upper East Side and Upper West Side, where plenty of Jews live and where she took about 80 percent and 71 percent of the vote, respectively. But its hard to surmise anything about the Jewish vote in those neighborhoods because the Jews are mixed in with non-Jews.
http://www.jta.org/2016/04/20/news-opinion/united-states/what-we-know-and-dont-know-about-how-jews-voted-in-new-york
There must be a lot of self-hating, anti-semitic Jews, both according to these statistics and the anecdotal evidence people have been giving in this thread. Most of us who are Jewish would testify that the majority of Jews in their family or social circles supported Hillary, just as the rest of American Democrats did. (Let's remember that Jews, like African-Americans, are among the most dedicated Democrats, and I think that had more to do with anything than Bernie's religion.) There are of course exceptions, as with the rest of the voting populace. For instance, my (Jewish) niece, a hip young millennial who happens to live in Crown Heights, probably voted for Bernie (although I never asked her), much like the rest of the population.
I think anti-Semitism had close to absolutely zip affect on this primary race.
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What role does anti-semitism play among those opposing Bernie Sanders? [View all]
Karmadillo
Jun 2016
OP
Since the majority of American Jews supported Hillary over Bernie, I think that speaks to the issue
still_one
Jun 2016
#2
And I happen to be one of those Jews that support Bernie and I am a woman. Imagine that.
jillan
Jun 2016
#33
Of course my point was that the OP's speculation was that antisemetism was a reason people didn't
still_one
Jun 2016
#59
This claim is very much like Trump blaming Judge Curiel for Trump's own bigotry.
baldguy
Jun 2016
#4
It is. And emotional, vehement denial, as well. Particularly when thinly shrouded in anti-Israel
JudyM
Jun 2016
#21
Most of the Jewish people I know are liberal Democrats and do NOT agree with the conservative
kerry-is-my-prez
Jun 2016
#35
That is somewhat dismissive of a genuine issue. I don't automatically conflate disagreeing with
JudyM
Jun 2016
#80
We all know it played a role but to what degree is the million dollar question.
NWCorona
Jun 2016
#7
I am Jewish and I opposed Sanders because he was a bad general election candidate
Gothmog
Jun 2016
#8
Absolutely true. It is delegitimized here. Eye-opening to see this, and profoundly saddening.
JudyM
Jun 2016
#111
His father's family was wiped out in the Holocaust. SHAME on you for your cold hearted
jillan
Jun 2016
#28
Losing your family in the Holocaust is crocodile tears? WTF is wrong with someone who says that??
jillan
Jun 2016
#45
"crocodile tears" referred to you, not Bernie. Get a grip with the faux outrage here.
Tarc
Jun 2016
#48
That's like saying an uncle tom is treated as an equal in the white racist community.
NWCorona
Jun 2016
#57
He said in a town hall that he was proud to be Jewish, after being asked about it
Ash_F
Jun 2016
#105
No, Jews support "Palestinian rights" on the condition they cease committing acts of terrorism
Tarc
Jun 2016
#116
Made up your mind without ever listening to, or reading, his speech or his website?
Arazi
Jun 2016
#77
This is grasping at straws. Almost no one who supports Hillary every brings up Bernie being Jewish
qdouble
Jun 2016
#27
Nope. I just started to post, but I've lurked. Almost no one gives Bernie shit for being Jewish.
qdouble
Jun 2016
#67
Then you somehow missed the very long posts about a poster here at DU and anti-semitism
Matt_in_STL
Jun 2016
#71
I'd like to see a link to it, please. I've seen no anti-Semitic sentiments leveled at Bernie.
ancianita
Jun 2016
#121
not much damage. He is against "Yahoo" and doesnt come off as overly religious
swhisper1
Jun 2016
#31
Sanders supports Israel and franken endorsed Clinton before Sanders got in the race
JI7
Jun 2016
#49
I remember when in very early 2009 during Operation Cast Lead Franken standing arm in arm
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#56
this should only be mentioned when Hillary supporters say we don't like her because she's a woman
yurbud
Jun 2016
#42
There's a large contingent of people down south who won't vote for a non-Christian
Cheese Sandwich
Jun 2016
#76
The Christian right doesn't love Israel, they love the Rapture and Israel's role in that event
Fumesucker
Jun 2016
#85
That's bogus.... I've been to tons of churches in the south where they pray for Israel and view Jews
qdouble
Jun 2016
#87
Yeah it was Jesse Jackson he referred to Jews as "Hymies" and to New York City as "Hymietown"
Autumn
Jun 2016
#95
There's a long and storied history of anti-semitism in the black community.
riderinthestorm
Jun 2016
#99
What we're saying is most of us haven't witnessed much of any anti-semetic statements towards Bernie
qdouble
Jun 2016
#88
Did I ever say zero? I said it wasn't rampant. Other than very extremist groups and probably
qdouble
Jun 2016
#122
Sorry, not buying it. Never seen anyone say anti-semetic about Bernie ever. Not saying it doesn't
qdouble
Jun 2016
#123
I'll never forget that one debate when Judy Woodruff asked him about standing in the way of
jillan
Jun 2016
#90
Ooh, another HRC supporter exposed as having NEVER read anything on Bernie's website
riderinthestorm
Jun 2016
#106
There is some serious anti-semitism among a sizable portion of Trump supporters
oberliner
Jun 2016
#104