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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How Bernie Sanders exposed Democrats racial rift [View all]Armstead
(47,803 posts)74. The Corporate and Wall St. Barons are equal opportunity exploiters
They are happy for the middle and lower classes to be separating themselves into ethnic enclaves. The GOP loves it too.
It is possible to walk and chew gum at the same time -- fight for both racial and overall economic justice, as ultimately they are part of a whole.
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Is that why the Sanders campaign felt social justice was of secondary importance?
Squinch
Jun 2016
#176
They could just as easily wrote: How Bernie Sanders exposed Democrats generational rift
Tom Rinaldo
Jun 2016
#2
This is false on its face, all the early polling showed millennial PoC with Hillary
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#4
That was not split by race, I've not seen one poll were PoC millienials supported Sanders
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#12
Understood, I still haven't seen any data showing the shift from Feb that PoC Mils were mostly
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#25
Actually, early on, Clinton well had millennials until pied piper walked past. Nt
seabeyond
Jun 2016
#39
You got a link to those? I've not seen one poll split by race after the "southern states"
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#19
That's based on exit polls. And that is the only place on the entire Internet that I've seen where
Number23
Jun 2016
#159
Yes: this election showed that many Democrats are fine with bombing brown people in foreign nations,
cpwm17
Jun 2016
#7
+1, "made a breakthrough with black voters because he lost them ONLY by 35 %.."
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#8
people whose communities have different histories have different ways of viewing the
geek tragedy
Jun 2016
#14
You are correct, there are many issues.......It is possible to walk and chew gum at the same time
Armstead
Jun 2016
#63
+1, Wall Street is the boogyman of the privileged and he stoked the anger from economic insecurity
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#26
The "Silent Majority" and "Reagan Democrats", the moderate Republicans of yesterday voted
PufPuf23
Jun 2016
#52
"One of these days that will sink in to those who want to make everything about race. " sigh
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#84
Then the dem candidate needs to address those issues relative to constituents, not just back
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#96
You're right, I live on the planet were not competing were a lot of PoC live isn't a good tactical
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#105
Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in the "southern states" & Sanders lost by over 4 mil votes
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#87
That has nothing to do with his platform or policies, which would all benefit minorities
JCanete
Jun 2016
#97
Most of the dem PoC where in the "southern states" so if they didn't compete for them how in
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#102
So very true, I called it a temper tantrum months ago... Weaver and Divine both said they didn't
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#24
It shouldn't be really surprising though if you think back to the animosity
justiceischeap
Jun 2016
#29
Bernie Sanders was decades ahead of Hillary Clinton in his support for gay rights.
cpwm17
Jun 2016
#34
Agreed, but I wonder how many actually read the whole thing before commenting.
Garrett78
Jun 2016
#130
I had always believed that a populist campaign would appeal to both Black and White voters.
bklyncowgirl
Jun 2016
#33
Yeap, ANOTHER post explaining what PoC "best interest" are... nothing new for Sanders camp
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#89
+1, this was talked about ad nausea last year and was ignored then and is ignored now
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#88
Where do you get that? All I'm saying is that there are other issues people find as important.
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#103
Clinton's message reached a broader, more diverse coalition of voters. That says it all.
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#124
We often believe only that which validates our bias, and conveniently discount all else...
LanternWaste
Jun 2016
#43
I do not care what she had to say. Just because we are both black women, does not mean I must defer
bravenak
Jun 2016
#48
And that really sums it up. You seem not to care what the Clinton have done to damage the
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#133
Voting for a bill doesn't mean you like every thing in it. But you know that.
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#152
Because the executive supported it, and she was part of that and supported it
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#172
Your response to my substantive, thoughtful post was exactly as I expected.
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#181
And I explained why the Clintons could have only chosen the good parts if they wanted
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#185
The fact that his supporters were so against sjw and 'identity politics' is half the problem
bravenak
Jun 2016
#47
Going in I honestly expected he was going to do a lot of the same things Obama did
forjusticethunders
Jun 2016
#68
Super Predators who must be brought to heel; 13 year olds charged as adults
appalachiablue
Jun 2016
#50
Don't wonder about me and history, know that I have two degrees in the field.
appalachiablue
Jun 2016
#55
If you have two degrees why did you not research the crime bill and Bernie's support
bravenak
Jun 2016
#57
oh I read it but here's a fact more whites voted for Barack Obama in '08 than Bill Clinton in '92
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#81
K, so you didn't read it cause what white people did wasn't the center of the article ....
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#108
a question why when Sanders was very clear in wanting to improve economics/ quality of life for all
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#109
That goes without saying for any dem candidate, not addressing peoples priorities is the issue heree
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#111
No, it was overly homogenized and not addressing all of the dem bases priorities. It's that simple
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#114
so wanting a better system economically and legally for all isn't good enough?
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#116
Its a start, its not the end all though and that's where Sanders stopped and Clinton's didn't
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#121
what did Clinton do-all I seem to remember was photo-ops with the mothers of victims ?
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#135
No, another post about how Sanders appeal wasn't diverse enough cause JUST LIKE IN THIS THREAD
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#91
That's the fact, Jack. Also lots of Reagan loving LGBT dismissig 'Democrats'.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#95
YES !! Sanders message was centered towards the very people who mostly supported him
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#98
universal healthcare, free college, a living wage, non-corrupt politics....
killbotfactory
Jun 2016
#106
HRC had a similar message and PoC didn't believe she was Satans daughter so the character
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#107
Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in the "southern states" & Sanders lost by over 4 mil votes
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#112
Yes, they did fail to compete from the start if they didn't put resources in those states and
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#119
That is a bullshit article posted by a bullshit corporatist media source. Nuff said!
floriduck
Jun 2016
#127
That is an AMAZING read. And I hope it puts an end to the lie that Black youths supported him
Number23
Jun 2016
#155
It's a great read. Some of it is problematic but overall, it is a very important read
Number23
Jun 2016
#160