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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How Bernie Sanders exposed Democrats racial rift [View all]Tom Rinaldo
(22,918 posts)9. Nationwide - not just California. Below 30 consistently favored Bernie. n/t
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Is that why the Sanders campaign felt social justice was of secondary importance?
Squinch
Jun 2016
#176
They could just as easily wrote: How Bernie Sanders exposed Democrats generational rift
Tom Rinaldo
Jun 2016
#2
This is false on its face, all the early polling showed millennial PoC with Hillary
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#4
That was not split by race, I've not seen one poll were PoC millienials supported Sanders
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#12
Understood, I still haven't seen any data showing the shift from Feb that PoC Mils were mostly
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#25
Actually, early on, Clinton well had millennials until pied piper walked past. Nt
seabeyond
Jun 2016
#39
You got a link to those? I've not seen one poll split by race after the "southern states"
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#19
That's based on exit polls. And that is the only place on the entire Internet that I've seen where
Number23
Jun 2016
#159
Yes: this election showed that many Democrats are fine with bombing brown people in foreign nations,
cpwm17
Jun 2016
#7
+1, "made a breakthrough with black voters because he lost them ONLY by 35 %.."
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#8
people whose communities have different histories have different ways of viewing the
geek tragedy
Jun 2016
#14
You are correct, there are many issues.......It is possible to walk and chew gum at the same time
Armstead
Jun 2016
#63
+1, Wall Street is the boogyman of the privileged and he stoked the anger from economic insecurity
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#26
The "Silent Majority" and "Reagan Democrats", the moderate Republicans of yesterday voted
PufPuf23
Jun 2016
#52
"One of these days that will sink in to those who want to make everything about race. " sigh
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#84
Then the dem candidate needs to address those issues relative to constituents, not just back
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#96
You're right, I live on the planet were not competing were a lot of PoC live isn't a good tactical
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#105
Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in the "southern states" & Sanders lost by over 4 mil votes
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#87
That has nothing to do with his platform or policies, which would all benefit minorities
JCanete
Jun 2016
#97
Most of the dem PoC where in the "southern states" so if they didn't compete for them how in
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#102
So very true, I called it a temper tantrum months ago... Weaver and Divine both said they didn't
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#24
It shouldn't be really surprising though if you think back to the animosity
justiceischeap
Jun 2016
#29
Bernie Sanders was decades ahead of Hillary Clinton in his support for gay rights.
cpwm17
Jun 2016
#34
Agreed, but I wonder how many actually read the whole thing before commenting.
Garrett78
Jun 2016
#130
I had always believed that a populist campaign would appeal to both Black and White voters.
bklyncowgirl
Jun 2016
#33
Yeap, ANOTHER post explaining what PoC "best interest" are... nothing new for Sanders camp
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#89
+1, this was talked about ad nausea last year and was ignored then and is ignored now
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#88
Where do you get that? All I'm saying is that there are other issues people find as important.
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#103
Clinton's message reached a broader, more diverse coalition of voters. That says it all.
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#124
We often believe only that which validates our bias, and conveniently discount all else...
LanternWaste
Jun 2016
#43
I do not care what she had to say. Just because we are both black women, does not mean I must defer
bravenak
Jun 2016
#48
And that really sums it up. You seem not to care what the Clinton have done to damage the
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#133
Voting for a bill doesn't mean you like every thing in it. But you know that.
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#152
Because the executive supported it, and she was part of that and supported it
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#172
Your response to my substantive, thoughtful post was exactly as I expected.
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#181
And I explained why the Clintons could have only chosen the good parts if they wanted
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#185
The fact that his supporters were so against sjw and 'identity politics' is half the problem
bravenak
Jun 2016
#47
Going in I honestly expected he was going to do a lot of the same things Obama did
forjusticethunders
Jun 2016
#68
Super Predators who must be brought to heel; 13 year olds charged as adults
appalachiablue
Jun 2016
#50
Don't wonder about me and history, know that I have two degrees in the field.
appalachiablue
Jun 2016
#55
If you have two degrees why did you not research the crime bill and Bernie's support
bravenak
Jun 2016
#57
oh I read it but here's a fact more whites voted for Barack Obama in '08 than Bill Clinton in '92
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#81
K, so you didn't read it cause what white people did wasn't the center of the article ....
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#108
a question why when Sanders was very clear in wanting to improve economics/ quality of life for all
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#109
That goes without saying for any dem candidate, not addressing peoples priorities is the issue heree
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#111
No, it was overly homogenized and not addressing all of the dem bases priorities. It's that simple
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#114
so wanting a better system economically and legally for all isn't good enough?
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#116
Its a start, its not the end all though and that's where Sanders stopped and Clinton's didn't
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#121
what did Clinton do-all I seem to remember was photo-ops with the mothers of victims ?
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#135
No, another post about how Sanders appeal wasn't diverse enough cause JUST LIKE IN THIS THREAD
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#91
That's the fact, Jack. Also lots of Reagan loving LGBT dismissig 'Democrats'.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#95
YES !! Sanders message was centered towards the very people who mostly supported him
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#98
universal healthcare, free college, a living wage, non-corrupt politics....
killbotfactory
Jun 2016
#106
HRC had a similar message and PoC didn't believe she was Satans daughter so the character
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#107
Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in the "southern states" & Sanders lost by over 4 mil votes
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#112
Yes, they did fail to compete from the start if they didn't put resources in those states and
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#119
That is a bullshit article posted by a bullshit corporatist media source. Nuff said!
floriduck
Jun 2016
#127
That is an AMAZING read. And I hope it puts an end to the lie that Black youths supported him
Number23
Jun 2016
#155
It's a great read. Some of it is problematic but overall, it is a very important read
Number23
Jun 2016
#160