2016 Postmortem

imagine2015

(2,054 posts) Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:43 AM Jun 2016

What does Bernie Sanders really want? What he said he wants. Read his speeches. Go to his website [View all]

And check his consistent record in Congress going back 25 years if you really don't know.

If anyone on DU doesn't know where Bernie stands on the issues they either haven't been paying attention or they are just using that political line to slam Bernie and his supporters even more! That sure encourages unity against Trump!

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What does Bernie Sanders really want? What he said he wants. Read his speeches. Go to his website [View all] imagine2015 Jun 2016 OP

And exactly how can anyone deliver that? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #1

You begin by building support for them. QC Jun 2016 #4

And with the GOP having the Senate and House there is zero chance it will become law. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #12

There was enormous resistance to everything good at first. QC Jun 2016 #14

All those things became possible Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #68

You are missing the point Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #75

I'm frankly sometimes embarrassed to be on the same team as those who wail highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #28

The way to win is to change Congress and keep the presidency...it is the only way to win. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #73

How about those Cavs? nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #74

That attitude epitomizes the problem Armstead Jun 2016 #65

You can not even bring up a bill in the House unless you are the majority Party Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #67

And that is exactly what we have done under Obama Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #72

You win the thread. n/t QC Jun 2016 #80

This is the refrain of the "No We Can't", do nothing, stand for nothing, excuse anything wing TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #70

It is reality Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #71

Do you honestly believe President Obama is taking his cues from Bernie Sanders? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #16

Yes. I do. Everybody is taking their cues from Sanders, right now. w4rma Jun 2016 #45

The Kingmakers lancer78 Jun 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author w4rma Jun 2016 #61

Don't play these racist games. Hillary 'won' more delegates through voter suppression. w4rma Jun 2016 #62

Reporting a candidate has won when they've won is not voter suppression. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #77

Every time a Sanders supporter lancer78 Jun 2016 #82

Everytime a Clintonite defends voter suppression, it outs them as political hacks. w4rma Jun 2016 #88

Lol, read some of my other posts lancer78 Jun 2016 #89

Or maybe they were just already progressive and you couldn't (or wouldn't) see it. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #78

+10,000 nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #17

What a victory! Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #69

He knows Congress and works well on both sides of the aisle. senz Jun 2016 #23

+1 He attacks Republicans only on their stands on issues; Hillary often goes ad hom. merrily Jun 2016 #29

Maybe you should investigate the Constitution and history. Congress is not always Republican and merrily Jun 2016 #26

Talking points are incredibly boring. senz Jun 2016 #33

+1 False talking points are even more boring. merrily Jun 2016 #36

True, they're stupifying. We've had too much of that around here. senz Jun 2016 #39

Was woo me with science still posting when you started? merrily Jun 2016 #41

It took me a long time to get a mental map of this place. senz Jun 2016 #46

I'm sorry you're fatigued. Yes, I know for a fact that memes can start by posting. I've done it, merrily Jun 2016 #48

Historically you are correct lancer78 Jun 2016 #55

Google his Lou Dobbs interview MattP Jun 2016 #2

Why would any progressive ever google Lou Dobs? nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #13

To see Sanders and Dobbs maligning immigrants lunamagica Jun 2016 #58

Yes. In the segment in which he appears. Dobbs and Sanders are like two peas in a pod lunamagica Jun 2016 #57

Exactly.....he didn't run for President for shits and giggles.... virtualobserver Jun 2016 #3

I sure reached to point of no return. No return to the Democratic Party. n/t djean111 Jun 2016 #5

What's astounding--and not in the good way-- QC Jun 2016 #6

This ^ vintx Jun 2016 #7

No, it wasn't always like that around here. QC Jun 2016 #8

Yep, I quit recommending it a few years ago when it became downright embarrassing at times. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #18

Same here. I don't tell me IRL friends about this place anymore. n/t QC Jun 2016 #20

the fact that some people have actually referred to Bernie as a con man..... virtualobserver Jun 2016 #9

Yep, it's a very ugly kind of moral nihilism, and while it's sad QC Jun 2016 #10

Righties like to pick on liberals b/c we're reasonable & nice. senz Jun 2016 #27

I think you're right. There's not much difference between the types QC Jun 2016 #31

Yep. This place has proven it over and over. senz Jun 2016 #40

Some people live in a bubble. senz Jun 2016 #22

Yes, and it's disgusting. senz Jun 2016 #24

It wasn't always that way here. n/t QC Jun 2016 #25

Maybe it was easier when there was a common enemy like Bush. senz Jun 2016 #32

That was a big part of it. QC Jun 2016 #34

I wasn't hanging out here in 2008. senz Jun 2016 #42

I think it's been nastier this time, with one exception, QC Jun 2016 #84

GGGOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLL nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #30

We all know what he wants, the question is what can he deliver? anigbrowl Jun 2016 #11

His ideas are not utopian and yes he can deliver. senz Jun 2016 #21

but Hillary wont get anything constructive through, she will "compromise" larkrake Jun 2016 #35

In one word: Democracy RobertEarl Jun 2016 #15

They're not used to candidates who say what they mean. senz Jun 2016 #19

it is terrifying to them larkrake Jun 2016 #38

People tend to respect straightforwardness. senz Jun 2016 #43

fingers are crossed, but DNC does not want him, period larkrake Jun 2016 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #37

It isn't official yet. Lunabell Jun 2016 #51

+1000 livetohike Jun 2016 #76

Bernie wants more Democrats in Congress. George Eliot Jun 2016 #44

Are you assuming Hillary wants the same things Bernie wants? senz Jun 2016 #47

I think Hillary is closer to Bernie's way of thinking Lunabell Jun 2016 #53

I can't make those assumptions. George Eliot Jun 2016 #85

They don't understand people who aren't in it for themselves and CAN'T be bought off. Skwmom Jun 2016 #49

Bernie or Busters, Lunabell Jun 2016 #52

It's hard to imagine Bernie wholeheartedly endorsing her senz Jun 2016 #56

Show any case where "Bernie was expected to win enough delegates to at least pull even" brooklynite Jun 2016 #64

A cataclysm was coming Hill's way. So the AP did what they did. senz Jun 2016 #86

I repeat: how was she going to win enough DELEGATES to pull even? brooklynite Jun 2016 #87

I'm undecided on this point right now Mike__M Jun 2016 #59

This is the hardest decision I have ever made. Lunabell Jun 2016 #60

I don't believe the party can be moved from the inside is the problem here. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #66

Well, Bernie came in second place. riversedge Jun 2016 #63

That was going to be my point frazzled Jun 2016 #79

Imagine a candidate showing up to the Democratic convention... Orsino Jun 2016 #81

Okay, since a Convention doesn't write or pass legislation, what else does Bernie Sanders want? brooklynite Jun 2016 #83