2016 Postmortem

JackRiddler

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27. "Trolls are the dog-piles in the lawn of life." - Bill USA.

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:42 PM

Jun 2016

(btw, in context, obviously, you mean dogshit. Dogpiles are fun, and quite the opposite.)

So in other words, this GOP campaign will exactly mirror the logic of the Hillary camp being employed here, of "When did you stop being a Republican?" Except that Sanders never was one of those. He was also never a communist, but he lets you call him a socialist even though he barely qualifies as that. It sure has damaged him so far!

If only he'd been a neoliberal willing to claim any position for votes, armed with 400 politician endorsements ("superdelegates&quot , a hundred million in corporate donor PAC-dollars, 100% name recognition, the party machines all working for him, and the corporate media treating him 24/7 like he's the single, pre-ordained candidate. All of which was true of Clinton a year ago when Sanders was but an insurgent blip.

Why did he fuck up like that? Play the game and win it the professional way, man! First serve your masters for a few decades, then pretend this is a democracy!

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4 Democrats: Calif is an open primary. Expect lot's of Repugs (aka: "independents") to vote 4 BS [View all] Bill USA Jun 2016 OP

Internal Polling must not look good, huh? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #1

it's a Republican conspiracy, I tell ya.... virtualobserver Jun 2016 #17

Yea it's called operation chaos Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #24

"operation chaos" is only happening in your mind virtualobserver Jun 2016 #25

omg, you made me spit my wine AntiBank Jun 2016 #26

Is that what happened in Oregon? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #34

Is that what 'It' is called? AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #51

Making excuses already. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #33

Zactly. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #37

Maybe the same Independents and republicans Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #2

What a GOP campaign against Bernie Sanders might look like: "When did you stop being a Communist?" Bill USA Jun 2016 #7

So they might call him names..... Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #9

"Trolls are the dog-piles in the lawn of life." - Bill USA. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #27

That ancient nonsense just doesn't work anymore AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #60

Independents are now Republicans? I think you meant non-partisan since Independents can't vote Live and Learn Jun 2016 #3

Haha. Defining the post-election narrative in advance, I see. RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #4

Oregon is a closed Primary and Bernie won it by a large margin, in CA it's 'semi-open' which mean Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #5

Lumping California in with Washington and Oregon is delusional. It's a completely different state. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #61

I lived most of my life in CA, still pay taxes there. I live in Oregon now. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #71

Nothing to say about the Washington primary? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #77

no, it's a semi-open primary, registered repugs cannot vote democratic ticket 2banon Jun 2016 #6

I didn't know that. thanks for that info. Bill USA Jun 2016 #13

Maybe you should update your OP to reflect your new knowledge. bobbobbins01 Jun 2016 #16

New info added to OP. Bill USA Jun 2016 #36

You're welcome.. 2banon Jun 2016 #19

should have mentioned, NPP would have to REQUEST a ballot for D, R, or I 2banon Jun 2016 #23

Hmm, do you think you could stand to actually correct your false OP? JackRiddler Jun 2016 #28

this sh*t again? How many thousands of Republicans would have to cross over to affect the outcome azurnoir Jun 2016 #8

I checked Calif voter data & Indies r about evenly split between Dems and Repug's, so it isn't as Bill USA Jun 2016 #15

Wow, you must be real worried Bernie's going to win. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #10

as I said in OP, HRC will get the delegates 4 the nomination. But BS fans are looking 4 any sort of Bill USA Jun 2016 #22

Operation Chaos will be in full swing Tuesday. DCBob Jun 2016 #11

At least, within the Clinton Reality Bubble. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #30

except it WONT , rethugs cant vote in the dem primary AntiBank Jun 2016 #39

There will be no shortage of excuses, no matter who wins. Orsino Jun 2016 #12

I thought you guys were against people claiming foul play every time their candidate loses. Marr Jun 2016 #14

Too many errors to be taken seriously. procon Jun 2016 #18

Here in CA many of those Independents... Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2016 #20

Excuse me. Not all Indies are GOP. Poster integrity, FAIL. nc4bo Jun 2016 #21

Cry some more, Bill. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #29

Wait. The GE isn't a closed primary under control of a single party?! JackRiddler Jun 2016 #32

Wonderful idea there Billie. 99Forever Jun 2016 #31

Hillarian desperation masquerading as speculation. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #35

The Campaign to marginalize Sanders supporters continues. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #38

Well, they already said our votes aren't needed or wanted. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #40

I am at that point as well nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #87

they keep this shit up they will marginalise Trump's ass right into the White House AntiBank Jun 2016 #41

Repukes would vote for Hillary. Two Reasons: jack_krass Jun 2016 #42

Except they can't. The primary is not open to Rs nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #47

Is that supposed to be a joke? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #62

There are about 1,420,248 right wing "independents" in CA with no reason to vote in the R primary ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #43

If NDPs were not registered Republican they could not nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #46

Exactly. They can't vote in the R primary but they can vote in the D primary. ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #50

So I guess by your logic I am a republican nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #53

And yet here you are posting in "democratic underground" ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #65

You might want to read the SO FAR TOS nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #67

I'm not really following your post there. ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #70

Yes and care to look at the 70 percent you got in that data nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #75

It's not "right leaning" and "left leaning" ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #79

Go ask the pollsters why they ask that question nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #80

Or you know, you could choose "neither" if you were polled. ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #82

Or you could refuse to answer pollsters since you are working media nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #85

There's nothing wrong with the polling question. ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #89

Acutally yes there is nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #91

What is funny is that you took all the time to look up the numbers. TimPlo Jun 2016 #48

"No party preference" voters can vote in the CA democratic primary. ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #49

Elvis never did no drugs. n/t Matt_R Jun 2016 #92

CA presidential primary is closed, the rest of the primaries are open Retrograde Jun 2016 #44

My next door neighbors fit the bill...repubs who register NPP since there is never any hope in eastwestdem Jun 2016 #56

And I know a couple Democrats who will vote for Cltnton in the primary nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #78

Modified primary nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #45

34% of those NPP voters are "Republican leaning" ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #52

But they are NOT republicans nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #55

They're not REGISTERED as republicans ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #66

You got me buddy, I am republican nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #68

What on earth are you talking about? ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #73

And I pointed already to you that there are two other parties that lean right nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #76

"Republican leaning" indies tend to vote for Republicans ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #81

Whatever dude nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #84

Here's your evidence ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #88

Yes and 20 said they would vote for Trump after voting for HRC nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #90

A Bernie win would be just as legitimate as a HRC win. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #54

Either way she wins the nomination. nt arely staircase Jun 2016 #58

Oh hell yeah arely staircase Jun 2016 #57

So registered REPUBLICANS can vote in the Democratic primary? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #59

Open primary means anyone can vote in either one. arely staircase Jun 2016 #63

Modified open primary. There, I helped you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #64

Texas has had the second worst turnout of any State this cycle. Texas elects Republicans. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #72

Oh here we go: inoculate Hillary against the coming bad news n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #69

So she's afraid she gonna lose? AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #74

Internal polling must be awful, if they're sending people out to spew this crap. jeff47 Jun 2016 #83

That is my read as well nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #86