2016 Postmortem

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(14,923 posts) Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:37 PM Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders Statement on FOREIGN POLICY [View all]

PRESS RELEASE

Sanders Statement on Foreign Policy

JUNE 2, 2016

MODESTO, Calif. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders on Thursday issued the following statement after Hillary Clinton delivered a speech criticizing Donald Trump’s foreign policy vision:

“I agree with Secretary Clinton that Donald Trump’s foreign policy ideas are incredibly reckless and irresponsible. But when it comes to foreign policy, we cannot forget that Secretary Clinton voted for the war in Iraq, the worst foreign policy blunder in modern American history, and that she has been a proponent of regime change, as in Libya, without thinking through the consequences.

“We need a foreign policy based on building coalitions and making certain that the brave American men and women in our military do not get bogged down in perpetual warfare in the Middle East. That’s what I will fight for as president.”

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-statement-foreign-policy/

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Thats correct Bernie....."Clinton voted for the war in Iraq,... Segami Jun 2016 #1

And Sanders voted to fund Iraq Tarc Jun 2016 #2

And voted for regime change in Iraq twice. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #5

Once the invasion decision was made, would you have preferred we leave soldiers in harms way floriduck Jun 2016 #6

If you're against the war, then you should be against the war whole hog. Tarc Jun 2016 #10

My humble opinion thinks your reply is senseless. Try thinking of those fighting for you and me floriduck Jun 2016 #11

Need you ask? Segami Jun 2016 #13

Once again, in case you forgot already Tarc Jun 2016 #15

Wow! Just Wow!!! floriduck Jun 2016 #16

Give it time; Sanders guilt for the Iraq War sill sink in eventually Tarc Jun 2016 #19

Ridiculous! But you know that right? Bernie voted to support the troops. panader0 Jun 2016 #22

If Sanders actually believed that, then he could've "supported the troops" by... Tarc Jun 2016 #25

"equal responsibility"? LOL! panader0 Jun 2016 #26

Are you in some sort of fantasy-land? Tarc Jun 2016 #27

Can you show us what Hillary has done for vets? pinebox Jun 2016 #83

That's not what we're discussing here. Tarc Jun 2016 #86

Well in all fairness it's related pinebox Jun 2016 #87

What would the Hillarians say if Bernie had voted against the funding? lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #85

floriduck, it is senseless. The cut and run philosophy of not funding existing troops in the field EndElectoral Jun 2016 #48

You surely don't have family in the military. What an idiotic statement. libdem4life Jun 2016 #12

There's an irony to all this. I see many here who actually DID argue to defund the war, but give Exilednight Jun 2016 #23

Ridiculous....Just ridiculous Armstead Jun 2016 #46

I know, it wil ltake time to come to grips with how much war Sanders has enabled Tarc Jun 2016 #53

So after Hillary and W. sent our troops into combat, you would deny them ammo, food, medicine? Scuba Jun 2016 #54

As I said last night, it doesn't work like that Tarc Jun 2016 #56

You're very naive, or pretending to be ... Scuba Jun 2016 #76

That doesn't even address the matter at hand Tarc Jun 2016 #77

That's exactly the matter at hand and it's disingenuous of you to suggest otherwise. Scuba Jun 2016 #79

A vote to fund a war is no different than a vote to authorize the war Tarc Jun 2016 #80

No funding, the troops come home. George II Jun 2016 #89

That simple, huh? Like they lied us into war, they couldn't find a way to fund the war? Seeinghope Jun 2016 #95

FFS he voted to fund the troops that were already there. You can separate that in your mind, jillan Jun 2016 #21

Of course he knows the difference. pangaia Jun 2016 #52

+1 vintx Jun 2016 #70

Not the same at all thesquanderer Jun 2016 #30

Not really, Tarc, as Sanders himself explained Samantha Jun 2016 #31

This line of argumentation is, like mos Sanders proposals, not grounded in reality Tarc Jun 2016 #33

Hillary sent the troops into battle based on lies. You're foolish games don't change the facts. think Jun 2016 #35

They both failed. Tarc Jun 2016 #37

Bullshit. Bernie had the good sense to try and stop that fucking war. Hillary sent the troops think Jun 2016 #39

He sure tried real hard, didn't he? Tarc Jun 2016 #41

Hillary voted to start the fucking war. Bernie voted for aid and support for the troops. think Jun 2016 #43

You can cloak it in "aid and support" rhetoric all you like Tarc Jun 2016 #44

Hillary voted for the greatest foriegn policy blunder in modern US history. Bernie spoke out & voted think Jun 2016 #47

There were 99 senators who voted yes. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #81

Kerry is just as much to blame for that pathetic vote. Happy now? think Jun 2016 #82

There is no "antiwar halo"... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #60

Ahem! The fact remains he voted against the IWR. He voted to support the troops. Seeinghope Jun 2016 #97

Your synopsis is false... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #59

They both bear equal responsibility Tarc Jun 2016 #63

Nope. ljm2002 Jun 2016 #65

Yep Tarc Jun 2016 #67

So you agree that Hillary's culpability is still greater than Bernie's in this matter. ljm2002 Jun 2016 #68

No, I believe that they share equal responsibility Tarc Jun 2016 #69

TTFN. n/t ljm2002 Jun 2016 #74

No they do not share equal responsibility. Spin it anyway you want to, the vote authorising W to Seeinghope Jun 2016 #96

That's nice that you make excuses for your man's war support Tarc Jun 2016 #98

O.K. Send the troops to war with no body armour, guns, food, living quarters......... Seeinghope Jun 2016 #105

Do you actually, in your heart of hearts, believe this? Tarc Jun 2016 #106

Perhaps you don't remember the troops being inadequately armed and protected in Iraq. So, in Seeinghope Jun 2016 #107

That was due to logistical mismanagement by the Pentagon Tarc Jun 2016 #108

How do you figure that? She voted giving Bush the authorization, Bernie Sanders didn't. Seeinghope Jun 2016 #94

In the end, the same thing Tarc Jun 2016 #99

No it is not the same thing. She voted to send somebody to war. Sanders voted to make sure that Seeinghope Jun 2016 #104

Can you give one example when an AUMF was passed that Congress ever defunded midstream deployment? EndElectoral Jun 2016 #49

Of course, they can't! MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #58

Apparently not... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #62

What insane logic... Those two peas don't fit at all... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #57

Another seriously naive Sanders pos,t why am I not surprised Tarc Jun 2016 #64

Who is living on fantasy island with THIS one? MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #91

Since I voted first in 1988, I'd say so, sport Tarc Jun 2016 #92

"sport"? MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #100

"Welcome to my ignore list" ? :) Tarc Jun 2016 #101

Yes, he did! SharonClark Jun 2016 #90

A repeated false equivalence does not become true. CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #102

VERY detailed and well thought out. zappaman Jun 2016 #3

lol nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #14

Was it? I stopped reading after he said "but..." bettyellen Jun 2016 #20

Two sentences of generality. VERY detailed, lol. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #32

Jimmy Carter: U.S. Is an 'Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery' think Jun 2016 #42

They had no smaerass reply for this of course vintx Jun 2016 #72

Not only voted for the IWR, but championed the cause Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #4

That's very important NWCorona Jun 2016 #18

Spot on Bernie! Well said. Joob Jun 2016 #7

. BootinUp Jun 2016 #8

Does she have a dandruff problem? panader0 Jun 2016 #24

💯 KeepItReal Jun 2016 #9

I too think supporting regime change is a key felix_numinous Jun 2016 #17

And to his credit he never mentions email issue. Nt ALBliberal Jun 2016 #28

Home run! B Calm Jun 2016 #29

So the centerpiece of his FP cred is still a vote he took 14 years ago ucrdem Jun 2016 #34

"Without thinking through the consequences." Skwmom Jun 2016 #36

Nothing new about that. Her judgement is ALWAYS on the wrong side on major issues pdsimdars Jun 2016 #109

I'm betting he didn't have to raid a flag store to say that, either. n/t winter is coming Jun 2016 #38

He needs to get this out there better. Both Trump and Clinton are pounding him in this area pollwise Hiraeth Jun 2016 #40

The American public makes mistakes. They voted for GW twice, and accepted torture after Abu Ghraib EndElectoral Jun 2016 #50

Agreed. However, it should be noted that the American public... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #55

Once again, Sanders is choosing to go after Clinton... brooklynite Jun 2016 #45

Once again Hillary supporters are upset that someones challenging Hillary. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2016 #51

Bernie sounds just like that fuckhead Trump. boston bean Jun 2016 #61

He just blew an opportunity to build a unified massive movement against Trump while many, many Jitter65 Jun 2016 #66

A super delegate came to my door this weekend casperthegm Jun 2016 #71

K and R bigwillq Jun 2016 #73

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #75

So Hillary attacked Trump and Bernie attacked Hillary Renew Deal Jun 2016 #78

Thanks for this pinebox Jun 2016 #84

Has Sanders ever issued any POSITIONS on Foreign Policy? George II Jun 2016 #88

One note Sanders sounds just like Giuliani and 9/11. Beacool Jun 2016 #93

Bless his heart. He's trying so hard MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #103