2016 Postmortem

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46. Snowden wasn't a whistleblower until Obama became president

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:48 PM

Jun 2016

During Bush's admin he was all for "whistleblowers being shot in the balls".

Google it. That's a direct quote from Snowden.

He's no hero, he blew that status when he disclosed details of his own country's covert, international operations.

He should have stopped at the domestic spying revelations.

He didn't. He fled to our two biggest international rivals who undoubtedly now have the gigabytes of info he stole.

He's a defector guilty of sedition.

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Snowden Destroys Hillary [View all] berni_mccoy Jun 2016 OP

I doubt Hillary was destroyed jberryhill Jun 2016 #1

Destroyed I tell you!!! Rex Jun 2016 #26

Rex, you and I have not interacted much lately Aerows Jun 2016 #86

Love you Aerows! Yeah been a while my friend. Rex Jun 2016 #94

You can't make gumbo without okra. Aerows Jun 2016 #96

Another reason to vote for Hillary. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #85

What? Aerows Jun 2016 #95

Snowden is a Ron Paul fanatic. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #139

Who? randome Jun 2016 #2

How do you say "Feel The Bern" in Russian KittyWampus Jun 2016 #109

Literally, like this: Почувствуйте Бернской. randome Jun 2016 #110

In Russia, the Bern feels you!! Separation Jun 2016 #111

That's the one! randome Jun 2016 #113

Edward Snowden was a lying, ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #131

Snowden wasn't exiled. He fled to the enemy. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #3

Snowden proved that whistleblowers are so vulnerable that running off to Russia.. Kentonio Jun 2016 #18

He was for whistleblowers being "shot in the balls" until Obama became president brush Jun 2016 #39

Actually, I think he was for it until he saw how the US was violating Fawke Em Jun 2016 #62

Curious that you avoided Snowden's quote about "whistleblowers should be shot in the balls" brush Jun 2016 #70

Perhaps he's evolved. frylock Jun 2016 #90

Lol. Funny how they selectively allow for that. Authoritarianism explains a lot. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #127

Russia is our enemy??? Herman4747 Jun 2016 #37

Righties like to reenact the Cold War. senz Jun 2016 #93

You DON'T think fascist Russia is our enemy? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #140

Life must not be pleasant if... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #142

Price of "friendship" with Russia is overturning the post-WW2 consensus of no expansion by conquest. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #147

And what exactly is the price of being their enemy? Herman4747 Jun 2016 #148

Ok .................. cstanleytech Jun 2016 #63

Right,? And Who knew all he actually had to do was run for president to be free!! 2banon Jun 2016 #119

So Do You Equally Dislike HRC cantbeserious Jun 2016 #4

I believe she should be equally held accountable for her mishandling of classified info berni_mccoy Jun 2016 #6

There's still that annoying problem about 'intent', though. randome Jun 2016 #12

"Sorry officer! I didn't know the speed limit... TCJ70 Jun 2016 #51

But 'intent' is, um, INTENTIONALLY written into the laws regarding classified info leaks. randome Jun 2016 #65

How many times do you HRC supporters have to be told "intent" is not necessary? Fawke Em Jun 2016 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #82

You use 'released' and 'mishandle' interchangeably. randome Jun 2016 #83

The point being raised is that she was too ignorant libdem4life Jun 2016 #108

She should have had aides that stood up to her more, perhaps. randome Jun 2016 #123

Yes, our delicate flower. Maybe she should have had aides that were not libdem4life Jun 2016 #133

Here's the thing the law states about intent Mother Of Four Jun 2016 #112

Only if charges are brought and she is found to be guilty of something. randome Jun 2016 #118

I commented on this on another thread so Ill copy & past it here Separation Jun 2016 #114

Sounds like you had launch codes in those cabinets! randome Jun 2016 #116

You would be surprised at the unimpressive or uncool stuff that can be classified. :) Separation Jun 2016 #138

.that^ 840high Jun 2016 #75

Do you think we should have two separate and unequal standards of justice? pdsimdars Jun 2016 #80

Just Assessing Consistency cantbeserious Jun 2016 #89

I have spoken highly of Snowden but that is just stupid on his part. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #5

Why? Should he instead of pointed out the servicemen serving jail time for less egregious offenses? Kentonio Jun 2016 #20

Read your sentence multiple times and can't make sense of it. Thanks. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #25

That's ok, I'm sure when you move up to big school you'll pick up new words. Kentonio Jun 2016 #27

I wasn't being snarky but thanks for the personal attack. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #36

Ok, sorry. Thought you were. Kentonio Jun 2016 #38

You bring a lot of excitement. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #41

That subject line was hard to understand thesquanderer Jun 2016 #57

I can't help but notice you didn't actually address the point or explain exactly Marr Jun 2016 #53

It's what I do best. Thanks for noticing. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #58

Snowden could probably get elected president of DU oberliner Jun 2016 #7

DU is 85% Bernie people. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #13

Because Bernie is the REAL D/democrat Carolina Jun 2016 #44

+1. JudyM Jun 2016 #100

I would certainly hope so. The "security state" isn't very popular in these parts. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #52

He voted against the Democratic candidate for President in 2008 oberliner Jun 2016 #79

So did a lot of people and their still welcome here. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #81

He'd have my vote. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #134

I know what you mean reddread Jun 2016 #8

I thought Bernie supporters were concerned about Hillary compromising classified info? Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #9

And BOOM goes the dynamite--this is it, exactly. nt MADem Jun 2016 #15

Who INTENTIONALLY disclosed classified info. Big difference there right out of the gate. randome Jun 2016 #16

Yeah, that's a rather curious double standard. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #19

Actually this is the double standard that destroys the Hillary fans. Marr Jun 2016 #21

Snowden wasn't a whistleblower until Obama became president brush Jun 2016 #46

Completely irrelevant. The act was one of a whistleblower. /nt Marr Jun 2016 #48

That's your opinion Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #60

So his "whistleblowers should be shot in the balls" comment means nothing? brush Jun 2016 #72

Hillary compromised classified info due to incompetence... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #42

Boom! Mic drop! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #55

Speaking of intent... Fawke Em Jun 2016 #66

Nope. Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #74

Is it just me or does there seem to be an especially large number of flameouts in this forum today? Number23 Jun 2016 #137

What are you going to do after the pivot to the GE??? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #10

He's going to take early retirement, kick back, and observe the fruits of his labors. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #68

Work like hell to get someone else nominated at the convention. Fawke Em Jun 2016 #69

Imma lay low and wait for the FBI to recommend an indictment. frylock Jun 2016 #91

I'm with you on that one. If it happens. Big if. AntiBank Jun 2016 #128

I never liked Snowden... FarPoint Jun 2016 #11

Destroys? Really? Who's the presumptive POTUS nominee, and who is a prisoner in Putin's Russia? MADem Jun 2016 #14

I personally don't believe Snowden was in the wrong. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #17

You nailed it, VP! farleftlib Jun 2016 #105

Weakest Attack on Hillary Ever! MineralMan Jun 2016 #22

want an explanation? boomer55 Jun 2016 #78

he wasn't exiled. he left. JI7 Jun 2016 #23

Exile notadmblnd Jun 2016 #43

He is threatened with trial upon return jberryhill Jun 2016 #49

Actually, I think Polanski fled post plea agreement... msanthrope Jun 2016 #125

Correction. He fled with stolen, classified info. He's a defector guilty of sedition . . . brush Jun 2016 #47

So the most vocal Hillary fans are also vehement Snowden haters. Kentonio Jun 2016 #24

The op is no Hillary fan. lol. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #28

I was referring to the replies, not the op. Kentonio Jun 2016 #31

Whole Lotta Cognitive Dissonance Goin' On... AzDar Jun 2016 #34

I know! Reading Hillary Supporters dissing Snowden is making my tummy hurt laughing so hard 2banon Jun 2016 #121

Oh fuck Snowden. He's a traitor that should be punished. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #29

Without that 'traitor' you wouldn't know most of what you know today about domestic spying. Kentonio Jun 2016 #33

You are a hoot. I have often talked positively about the end result of Snowdens actions. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #40

I dont think he responded to you at all. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #84

Multiple times. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #88

A clarification: Many call him a traitor (actually he's guilty of sedition) because . . . brush Jun 2016 #50

Sorry but the evidence isnt there to support a charge of treason. Mind you I am not disagreeing cstanleytech Jun 2016 #59

Sedition is the operative word, and possibly espionage. He was in Europe for a few months . . . brush Jun 2016 #67

He is my hero. 840high Jun 2016 #76

Destroy? I think not. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #30

Well, that was super smart, wasn't it? BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #32

Says the traitor who skipped off to Russia and endorsed Bernie. RandySF Jun 2016 #35

Regarding these constant "________ DESTROYED __________" posts wyldwolf Jun 2016 #45

What personal benefit? annavictorious Jun 2016 #61

Isn't he still on the lam? redstateblues Jun 2016 #54

Snowden is a piece of shit republican that took the shit until Obama got in, then seabeyond Jun 2016 #56

Exactly. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #73

Thank you Edward Snowden. Broward Jun 2016 #71

Snowden should be the Vice Presidential candidate for either candidate. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #77

Steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king - Dylan. NT. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #87

I wonder if he cast an absentee ballot? MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #92

She didn't "break classification rules" Sparkly Jun 2016 #97

I thought Snowden would be married by now. randome Jun 2016 #98

Again with the fiance lie. Didn't I call out your lies years ago about that? DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #102

What lies? All I'm saying is that his fiance appears to have vanished once more. randome Jun 2016 #104

You are the only person I have ever seen call her his fiance. She's his girlfriend. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #106

Okay, fine. Snowden's been out of the news for quite a while and I forgot. randome Jun 2016 #107

Source? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #129

Here it is. randome Jun 2016 #141

He didn't 'hint' they were going to be married. The DailyMail is trash and we don't know JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #143

Agreed. It just seems strange that they were dating for 4-5 years before his run. randome Jun 2016 #144

Or maybe he doesn't believe in the institution of marriage JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #146

Snowden is a hero. Hillary is a corrupt, lying politician. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #99

Agreed. nt AliceWonderland Jun 2016 #103

+1 eom Arazi Jun 2016 #132

Yes. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #135

I'll glad... MrWendel Jun 2016 #101

K & R nt findrskeep Jun 2016 #115

Snowden WISHES he could have hacked into Hillary's emails. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #117

Yeah, she seemed "destroyed" yesterday when she ripped Trump a new one. Beacool Jun 2016 #120

Trash yet another Dem2 Jun 2016 #122

Still availing himself of Putin's hospitality, I assume? baldguy Jun 2016 #124

If Snowden is such a badass RandySF Jun 2016 #126

Did he tweet that while sitting on Putin's lap? Metric System Jun 2016 #130

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #136

I would vote Snowden before Hillary. PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #145