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2016 Postmortem

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Sun May 29, 2016, 12:17 PM May 2016

Bernie or Bust Faithfull are Heroes to Me [View all]

It simply amazes me, how contrary to be a progressive, this whole paradigm is, of the "I'm with Her" diehards; no matter how much bad faith is documented; and how much loyalty to oligarh'ism, Hillary Rodham Clinton resume empirically denotes. Even worse, is the fact that her loyalists are not just opponents, but that they actually despise me, and others alike, because I'm for Bernie Sanders. Now there's so much hate here, at DU, against U.S. Bern'rs, there's even a thread lambasting Bern's or Bust as not being heroes.

Bern or Bust faithful, are heroes to me!

All things considered, here we are, loyal to a 70ish ole man, who has spent all his life, 99% of the time, on the progressive side of things, L O N G before doing so was popular; and because we dare to be democratic about the Democratic election, we are disparaged - regularly.

Do you not understand, Bern or Bust is a commitment to U.S.?

Have those who look down upon U.S., their fellow citizens, with such disdain, ever even considered the fact that you likely need our vote, to win the general election?

Is there any time, ever, of Hillarians taking the time to review Clinton's actions, speaking louder than words, of how she represented a rapist, or Walmart (that rapes all of U.S., including their workers - monetarily), or Monsanto?

Or how about the fact that she took millions of dollars - from foreigners - as Secretary of State?

That really doesn't bother you? ..................................... REALLY!

If Bernie had done 1/10th of those things that Hillary has done, we would never be backing the guy.


Bernie Sanders is one true, red white and blue American, so good at what he does, he gets 25% of Republicans, to vote for him, in Vermont. This is a guy that Hillary's loyal lambast for his wife's tenure at a school that gones bust, as if such were Senator Sanders fault;

but you find no fault at all - whatsoever - of Hillary's vanishing 30,000 emails, and that of her aides too....


The definitions of heroes, are warped, as the very 1st item in most dictionary's, online, state it is a "man" distinguished. So in that sense, neither I, nor half of Sanders followers, fit the bill. But as for the 3rd or 4th, define (depending on where you're looking) it states a heror is "someone who fights for a cause".

As I've been called both a Quixote and a hero, I'll own both the quixotic moniker and this latter denote of fighting for a cause.

To all my fellow Anonymous, 99%'rs, decent progressives and, especially, my fellow Bern'rs

THANK YOU - you are heroes to me - as those who are fighting a noble and just, cause.

As for Hillarians, you are diehard loyal to her, and that's your choice; because you've adopted a stance that "what difference does it make" for her email server, vanishing items, decades of workings with the dark side; and don't even care about things like ManPADs.

What difference does your posture make - to me - is a permanent line in the sand. Hillary Rodham Clinton took money from Goldman Sachs, who deliberately destroyed our eToys.com public company, and my career, with my daughter being abducted and an eToys shareholder (Robert Alber) having to shoot/kill, a career criminal, when he turned down their bribe.

Goldman Sachs partnered with Bain Capital, using a MNAT law firm partner, arranged to be the prosecutor over our case. https://www.justice.gov/archive/olp/colmconnollyresume.htm

And the Public Corruption Task Force was shut down, to cover all that up - with career federal prosecutors being ordered to silence (as was those who raised questions about Hillary's non government email server), while Eric Holder didn't do a DAM thing about it.http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/20/local/me-shakeup20

With Bernie Sanders, I have a 99% chance of getting a new U.S. Attorney General that will look into the matter.

Unfortunately, with Hillary Clinton, the opposite is more likely to be true. I'll have a 99% chance she will never look into the matter. She's been taking money from big oil, big pharma, foreign persons and Goldman Sachs. The chances she'll pick anything other than a female version of Eric Holder, is not even a rhetorical question. For dang sure, with her as President, I'm not ever going to see justice.

The fact that Hillarians don't care about that - due to the diehardiness - is just plain sick.

As for the general election - we'll see.

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Bernie Sanders followers are heroic, fighting for a good cause.
0 (0%)
Hillary is fighting for herself
1 (2%)
Bern of Bust is a commitment to America
0 (0%)
We will never have another chance for a guy like Bernie
0 (0%)
All of the above
58 (89%)
Hillary is going to be the next President of the United States - No Matter What
6 (9%)
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Mentioning the Arkansas rape case and ending with the Benghazi video. No shock you love Bernie or Metric System May 2016 #1
The Benghazi issue is something you should care about. 5000 ManPADs went missing, under her auspice. laserhaas May 2016 #3
And yet you support a candidate who lied to the American public for over a year pinebox May 2016 #8
The Dare-Devil, biker Bernie, is cute laserhaas May 2016 #39
Personally, I'm not interested in enabling the Trump apocalypse. emulatorloo May 2016 #2
My conscience is - if enough of U.S. write in Bernie laserhaas May 2016 #5
Laws vary from state to state regarding write-ins so be sure and check. emulatorloo May 2016 #13
Actually, there's a team working on that issue - as we speak. laserhaas May 2016 #31
It should also include 840high May 2016 #105
Nobody who helps elect Trump is a hero. nt Bleacher Creature May 2016 #4
Well - you will get to eat your own words - on that one. laserhaas May 2016 #6
Why are you making threats? More people voted for Hillary. Get over it. Metric System May 2016 #7
In a bubble. pinebox May 2016 #10
There you go - with bullchit - there's NO threat here, only a remark to the contrary laserhaas May 2016 #16
IMO... Alex4Martinez May 2016 #78
Agreed...but Im not going to call the names laserhaas May 2016 #85
Agreed..just like union membership laserhaas May 2016 #86
Union membership vs union bosses is the perfect parallel. Alex4Martinez May 2016 #88
Concur laserhaas May 2016 #92
Sing it loud! 840high May 2016 #106
1000% laserhaas Jun 2016 #107
AGREED! And...You Want Us To Vote For A Candidate With THIS Level Of Personal Character? CorporatistNation May 2016 #98
Exqctly!...They release this report on a holiday weekend laserhaas May 2016 #100
The same logic can be applied that he's helping Hillary pinebox May 2016 #9
Enough with that garbage. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #27
It's the same exact logic pinebox May 2016 #28
Standing against the mob/bullying mentality - is never a mindset of the lost. laserhaas May 2016 #30
Hillary is just as bad as Trump. Fawke Em May 2016 #52
Worse...with Trump his failings as a human being are obvious laserhaas May 2016 #57
Trump agree with you Demsrule86 May 2016 #11
And posters, if they persist. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #108
that would be fun! nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #109
They are heros to Trump. YouDig May 2016 #12
I voted for your first option. I think his supporters need to feel that way... NCTraveler May 2016 #14
Good for you - 'NCTraveler' laserhaas May 2016 #18
An overwhelming majority of them are fighting for a just cause. NCTraveler May 2016 #20
I understand NCTraveler. laserhaas May 2016 #23
I made an edit before you replied to make sure it was clear enough. NCTraveler May 2016 #25
Its not a shot - NCTraveler - you quote her, as being the one, in your sig line laserhaas May 2016 #29
I'm due beer and travel money. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #33
I've traveled throughout America, and my kids have been in 38 states. laserhaas May 2016 #38
"Laser the Liquidator" NCTraveler May 2016 #45
You're too kind...thanks...My job has been 1 case for 15 yrs laserhaas May 2016 #55
Since when is electing Trump a just cause dlwickham May 2016 #77
What gives you any right to say the ...backing of bernie laserhaas May 2016 #82
Your movement can not survive a Trump presidency Demsrule86 May 2016 #15
On the contrary, the "movement" is a revolution against manifest injustice - oligarchy laserhaas May 2016 #19
Well,Trump loves him some BoBs,so you've got that going for you. sufrommich May 2016 #17
Bernie or bust are no heroes to me. hrmjustin May 2016 #21
That logic, and your thread titled same, is why I wrote this retort. laserhaas May 2016 #37
You won't get sympathy from me and you know my opinion. hrmjustin May 2016 #40
Sad state of affairs 'hrmjustin' - in so many ways laserhaas May 2016 #41
What is sad is how Bernie or bust helps trump but you don't see thst. hrmjustin May 2016 #42
I see you defend an evil wueen while accusing U.S. who fight her laserhaas May 2016 #56
Wueen? hrmjustin May 2016 #58
If I had to choose between Otto Wels and Donald Trump I would have voted for Chairman Wels. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #22
First of all, there's still a chance, Mitt is coming. Secondly, given the choices, I'd rather have laserhaas May 2016 #26
Romney would be Ludwig Kass in that analogy. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #34
Understand. laserhaas May 2016 #36
Bernie or Busters are Human Tire Fires BootinUp May 2016 #24
BoBs are Trumpists. Without question. baldguy May 2016 #32
Hmmm, let's take a look at that (perverted) sense of logic. laserhaas May 2016 #35
"How dare you!" You'd allow a true fascist to win the election just to spite Hillary Clinton. baldguy May 2016 #87
The argument BBC ghat you are the one who dares.. laserhaas May 2016 #96
Hillary is not a progressive. basselope May 2016 #47
Concur laserhaas May 2016 #59
I'm not allowing a Trump Presidency, the people voting for Hillary are. Bernie or Bust. Joob May 2016 #43
I think they're self-absorbed jackasses. N/t gollygee May 2016 #44
In many ways the Bernie Or Bust meme is made up. basselope May 2016 #46
Fear mongering..brow beating...mud slinging laserhaas May 2016 #65
I love Bernie and have for decades, but if he's not the nominee you have to consider Vinca May 2016 #48
He'd probably think it was awesome because it would earn him a huge place in history books gollygee May 2016 #49
I disagree.... laserhaas May 2016 #60
Well, no complaints from you if Trump becomes POTUS and ruins the country. Vinca May 2016 #68
You have no dignity...nor do you have authority laserhaas May 2016 #69
Okay . . . I see incineration of the species doesn't bother you. Vinca May 2016 #74
Awhpooh laserhaas May 2016 #81
Remember when Trump said he could shoot someone in Time Square and would not lose any support? AtomicKitten May 2016 #50
Can find no fa7lt with your logic..but it's a sad state of affairs laserhaas May 2016 #61
From the looks of polling around here, this place is going to be dead as a doornail Fawke Em May 2016 #51
To me (outside of ManPADs) the bigger issue is the charity laserhaas May 2016 #62
I would say everybody involved including the voters, OWS, Bernie, and liberal_at_heart May 2016 #53
Totally agree laserhaas May 2016 #63
Donald Trump thanks you for your support qdouble May 2016 #54
This is where you Hillarians need a pie throw battle laserhaas May 2016 #64
If you are advocating that you or other people should not vote for the Democratic nominee qdouble May 2016 #67
If I write in Bernie's name..Im voting for Bernie laserhaas May 2016 #70
You're going to vote for Bernie even after he ends his campaign? qdouble May 2016 #72
Wrong laserhaas May 2016 #101
What the fuck is going on? joshcryer May 2016 #66
A thread..anti BoB was getting too much hoopla laserhaas May 2016 #71
This shit is crazy. joshcryer May 2016 #79
Weve never had Dems brow beat other Dems before laserhaas May 2016 #80
This poll doesn't even make any sense. barrow-wight May 2016 #73
Makes sense to 70 other people laserhaas May 2016 #83
Yeah, same-minded people. But that's not the point of a poll. barrow-wight May 2016 #84
This Memorial Day weekend, let's remember the real heroes... zappaman May 2016 #75
Those little yellow minions are my heroes MyNameGoesHere May 2016 #76
I would like to vote for Bernie, ZombieHorde May 2016 #89
And you have that right...unequivocally laserhaas May 2016 #90
This has been a strange year. ZombieHorde May 2016 #91
Correct laserhaas May 2016 #102
Thing is....the lines are notbyet drawn laserhaas May 2016 #93
Not to me, and I am a Bernie supporter democrattotheend May 2016 #94
I have a different stance, I refuse to let that kind of thinking go ignored. Joob May 2016 #95
We do...that's what being a diehard Berner..is laserhaas May 2016 #99
I know, I lead people on with thought, so they come to their own conclusion Joob May 2016 #103
Very kind and considerate...of you laserhaas May 2016 #104
Yes...I have the right to be Bern...ONLY laserhaas May 2016 #97
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