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2016 Postmortem

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Ohioblue22

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Thu May 26, 2016, 11:16 AM May 2016

No, the system wasn’t rigged against him The system was rigged, for sure, but in his favor. The fir [View all]

No, the system wasn’t rigged against him

The system was rigged, for sure, but in his favor. The first two states? Two of the most unrepresentative states in the union, states that glossed over his failures in reaching communities of color. It’s a calendar that benefits white candidates and silences the issues that matter to the communities that drive the modern Democratic Party.

And how about them caucuses? Sanders won nine of 11, getting a significant percentage of his delegate haul from these undemocratic, exclusionary contests. In fact, those nine states are exactly half of his victory total. Take caucuses out, and Sanders is barely in the frame.

Now, there’s nothing wrong with winning caucuses as long as they exist! In fact, Barack Obama owes his presidency to them. But designing a system that prevents people from participating and eliminates the secret ballot is exactly what rigging the system looks like, and it wasn’t Clinton that benefited from that.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/05/23/1529938/-11-reasons-why-Bernie-Sanders-lost-this-thing-fair-and-square?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos%29

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The new meme of the hour I see. Katashi_itto May 2016 #1
. It whines, shimmies and shakes. Well it has a quota to make after all Ohioblue22 May 2016 #4
"The System Isn’t ‘Rigged’ Against Sanders" Hortensis May 2016 #20
Caucuses, yes. But Clinton's done well, overall, in open primaries. Garrett78 May 2016 #21
The WA primary is only meanginless as a result of litigation by the Democratic Party of WA to Bluenorthwest May 2016 #25
"To suppress votes of the most vulnerable" Odd choice of words tonyt53 May 2016 #27
The DNC rigged the system against Bernie from day one! bkkyosemite May 2016 #2
Pretty much unsubscribed from my DK email mikeysnot May 2016 #3
Yup. Remember when 80% of the SD's announced for Sanders before he announced he was running? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #5
Stopped reading after the first paragraph progressoid May 2016 #6
Those 500+ super delegates Hillary had before the first vote was cast in Iowa was rigged for Bernie' B Calm May 2016 #7
Somebody is smoking crack. n/t leeroysphitz May 2016 #8
The Dem Party & DNC changed from a BOTTOM-UP to a TOP-DOWN organization, like the Reps/RNC. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #9
KOS has pretty much turned into HRC Central. Triana May 2016 #10
Caucuses get romanticized, but the fact of the matter is they suppress turnout in a big way. Garrett78 May 2016 #11
States that have a caucus have one because that's their choice, often the direct choice of the Bluenorthwest May 2016 #12
The reason they exist is irrelevant mythology May 2016 #13
And I don't think anyone fails to understand that they exist due to Dem Party decisions. Garrett78 May 2016 #14
No it isn't. I oppose caucuses, no need to preach. But you have to know how they got put in Bluenorthwest May 2016 #15
Where is the evidence that people don't realize all of that already? Garrett78 May 2016 #16
The OP says it was 'rigged' by having caucuses. Thus the OP says the Democratic Party rigged Bluenorthwest May 2016 #17
The OP in no way suggests an ignorance of the fact that Democrats... Garrett78 May 2016 #19
That's silly. Look at the author's language about the caucuses: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #22
No. I'm not disputing that both candidates have issues with the process. Garrett78 May 2016 #23
And yet the article you link to has no criticisms of the Party processes but full focus on Bernie Bluenorthwest May 2016 #24
It's a commentary on the process. Garrett78 May 2016 #26
Pure. Comedy. Gold. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #18
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