2016 Postmortem

kstewart33

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114. With Cali's post, I'm more hopeful that real unity is possible to defeat Trump.

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:39 PM

May 2016

We have to come together.

We can't lose Obamacare, and all the progress in gay, civil and women's rights that have been made during Obama's terms. We can't lose a women's right to choose.

We lose it all if Trump is elected. And heaven help all of the immigrants in this country.

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Why I think Bernie should drop out. [View all] cali May 2016 OP

You have reached acceptance. nt LexVegas May 2016 #1

You are clueless. I have always said that Hillary would be the nominee cali May 2016 #2

Like your moxie! KPN May 2016 #31

Lol. Love that word. cali May 2016 #55

Despite our differences, we are neighbors :) Tarc May 2016 #68

What? They still make it? cali May 2016 #85

But of course Tarc May 2016 #91

Rootwise, yup! KPN May 2016 #86

+1 mountain grammy May 2016 #40

Rachel talked about this and I am so heartened some are paying attention. Bernie Sanders Actor May 2016 #54

Thanks. I don't- and never have- watched her, but I agree about the potential. cali May 2016 #62

As a Hillary supporter, I completely agree. kstewart33 May 2016 #105

That reminds me, they are doing that, the guy was on Rachel last night Actor May 2016 #107

Sanders people are trolling like the GOP lewebley3 May 2016 #77

And leweybluey gets the dubious award for bull. cali May 2016 #83

Your the one will the bull: if you cannot face the fact that lewebley3 May 2016 #119

This isn't the Bernie Sanders forum. kstewart33 May 2016 #108

I think this deserves a 'thank you' peggysue2 May 2016 #98

Very well said. nt kstewart33 May 2016 #124

You're in denial. frylock May 2016 #47

You exemplify the typical Hillary supporter. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #52

And Bernie's the one with the outlandish ideas Skink May 2016 #3

Why? What's the point? cali May 2016 #5

No way should he drop out. Merryland May 2016 #4

Hillary only needs 100 more pledged delegates. Even if he wins CA, she'll get them. cali May 2016 #7

I have a bet that he will win California in a close race The Second Stone May 2016 #76

With Cali's post, I'm more hopeful that real unity is possible to defeat Trump. kstewart33 May 2016 #114

Why do you think Donald Trump wants to be beaten? (n/t) PJMcK May 2016 #154

That's a cute bit of phraseology Codeine May 2016 #75

Well I happen to think that the folks in the remaining states deserve to have their voices heard notadmblnd May 2016 #6

Agree! mountain grammy May 2016 #42

That's the mature view BeyondGeography May 2016 #8

Really? Merryland May 2016 #9

A clenched fist? That is hyperbole. cali May 2016 #10

We'll see BeyondGeography May 2016 #29

I think we already have seen many times over nolabels May 2016 #70

Yeah, because principles and passion are something one should just be able to put aside notadmblnd May 2016 #18

Well, every voter has done that on every election so far, why is it different now? Actor May 2016 #57

Speak for yourself notadmblnd May 2016 #63

Which politician other than Bernie have you voted for who you have not had to do this? Actor May 2016 #67

I thought Obama had principles and passion notadmblnd May 2016 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #95

If Bernie and Hillary are in a room, who's the adult? BeyondGeography May 2016 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #129

Why? We are only talking a couple of more weeks, and it would be not a nice thing to do to his still_one May 2016 #11

I think I explained why pretty clearly. cali May 2016 #24

I read. I just don't think its mutually exclusive still_one May 2016 #64

And, minimize the Dem Party trashing and delegitimizing. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #136

Those are good point Surya. As I also said, he should tone down the Hillary bashing, and focus still_one May 2016 #138

Nope sorry pinebox May 2016 #12

not to mention the FBI investigation & a variety of civil suits Merryland May 2016 #14

I am sure that the Democratic voters of California would ever so be grateful to you azurnoir May 2016 #13

No Robbins May 2016 #15

Why we can't afford that: lagomorph777 May 2016 #16

I think Sanders had the ability to influence the party. NCTraveler May 2016 #17

Oh, he still has enormous influence. cali May 2016 #21

I don't think he has much influence at this point. He is being hammered. NCTraveler May 2016 #28

If he manages his "movement" correctly and his supporters dont act stupidly, he can Actor May 2016 #65

how long is 'won't be long'?...is it slightly sooner or slightly later than 'not long at all'? islandmkl May 2016 #80

48 hours. Not sure yet if I'm talking business hours or one hour each day, equaling 48 days. nt. NCTraveler May 2016 #88

at one time in the distant past i ran a mess hall for ROTC cadets during their summer basic training islandmkl May 2016 #102

Thank you for sharing that. NCTraveler May 2016 #110

After California Prism May 2016 #19

Thank you! I agree. Let EVERYONE vote. Raster May 2016 #36

This primary was supposed to be about her Prism May 2016 #43

I like that. Duplicity, thy name is Clinton. WEAR IT! Raster May 2016 #48

very disappointing post 2banon May 2016 #20

Nah. Ain't gonna happen. mikehiggins May 2016 #22

Cali you've been a great advocate for Bernie and I respect that. BillZBubb May 2016 #23

Thanks. I understand cali May 2016 #33

If he doesn't stay in until the Convention he will have broken a promise... KoKo May 2016 #155

So dumb, the largest races still have yet to play out. joshcryer May 2016 #25

As her numbers against Trump plummet Merryland May 2016 #30

June 8-12 polling will show a surge for Clinton. joshcryer May 2016 #56

Wow, a sane Bernie supporter. Nice to see finally. beaglelover May 2016 #26

That is such a clueless and fucked up comment. cali May 2016 #37

+1 mountain grammy May 2016 #46

indeed ibegurpard May 2016 #49

Meh. beaglelover May 2016 #133

Now now Cary May 2016 #150

That was an insult. Duh. cali May 2016 #151

Probably, as was mine to some degree. Cary May 2016 #157

And FYI, in circles you're not privy to you scored a few points. Cary May 2016 #158

There are MANY sane Bernie supporters. That becomes obvious once you put away... Raster May 2016 #41

Maybe it's time for all of us to stop wisecracking. kstewart33 May 2016 #117

If I thought the bulk of Bernie supporters auntpurl May 2016 #27

The "Hillary beating him fair and square" ship sailed long ago... Raster May 2016 #45

We will have to agree to disagree. auntpurl May 2016 #60

You are so wrong. The much maligned reddit Bernie for president is cali May 2016 #50

Yeah, but he's still in it. auntpurl May 2016 #61

"Nevada was not good for Bernie's cause..." dchill May 2016 #115

Regardless, it has done what it has done. auntpurl May 2016 #122

Bernie's reputation could never descend to the level... dchill May 2016 #125

Well said. nt kstewart33 May 2016 #121

Bernie should stand outside the convention with a million people and call for political revolution Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #32

I like that! Except it would fall on deaf ears inside the convention. BillZBubb May 2016 #72

Absolutely not. MelungeonWoman May 2016 #34

I like Melungeons Merryland May 2016 #44

Recommended. H2O Man May 2016 #35

As long as he's in the race Clinton has to at least sort of pretend to be a Democrat tularetom May 2016 #38

I'd rather she pretended to be liberal. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #81

Completely disagree. Strongly. nt stillwaiting May 2016 #39

I strongly disagree. SamKnause May 2016 #51

I find your expression reasoned. I may not agree totally on the direction you arrived, but cool. seabeyond May 2016 #53

Probably best to drop the Bernie banner. peace13 May 2016 #58

Oh ffs. Bernie is my Senator. I've supported him for years longer cali May 2016 #71

Telling him to quit is not supporting him in this particular effort. peace13 May 2016 #120

And the wheels n the bus go BUMP BUMP BUMP! nt Codeine May 2016 #87

I agree. Merryland May 2016 #90

... asuhornets May 2016 #59

I can understand your reasoning but disagree, the anger stems from a similar excepting of AuntPatsy May 2016 #66

I think this is a fine message, no need for savaging Tarc May 2016 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog May 2016 #74

Bernie's in a tough place. KPN May 2016 #78

Cali will feel different next week, with the first judicial report on Hillary. ViseGrip May 2016 #79

Party sending wrong info to CA poll workers now! So Bernie should get out? ViseGrip May 2016 #82

How? She needs less than 100 more pledged delegates. cali May 2016 #84

A man should never leave things unfinished, either in victory or defeat. Are you losing faith cali? desmiller May 2016 #89

California needs to vote. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #92

I largely agree with you. auntpurl May 2016 #96

With fondness and respect isn't this inconsistent with, "No, I don't think Hillary and the demb PufPuf23 May 2016 #93

No. I explained in the op that my focus is Bernie and the movement/revolution cali May 2016 #94

Well then I do disagree about Sanders quitting now and supporting Clinton PufPuf23 May 2016 #118

I see that s as another marker in time nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #146

abandonment does not equal commitment. I thought you aimed a bit higher. Kip Humphrey May 2016 #123

We can do all that after the convention. I hope he doesn't concede until after the vote at the conv. aikoaiko May 2016 #97

I intend to fight to the convention, and Bernie should too pengu May 2016 #99

Respectfully Disagree pmorlan1 May 2016 #100

Thank you. kstewart33 May 2016 #103

The Hillary Campaign's Project "Discredit him, disqualify him and unify the Party later." merrily May 2016 #104

I think dropping out before 2026 pledged would do more harm than good at this point Recursion May 2016 #106

I agree. Bernie has already accomplished a great deal... DCBob May 2016 #109

I usually agree with you but not on this dragonfly301 May 2016 #111

He also promised not to attack Hillary Txbluedog May 2016 #128

Trust me the opposition has a boatload of talking points that Bernie hasn't touched dragonfly301 May 2016 #130

especially after losing OR and that blowout in KY! MisterP May 2016 #112

He should take it to the convention as planned. ozone_man May 2016 #113

This is up to Bernie, he can conceivably use a more positive tone BootinUp May 2016 #116

Thank you cali. I think Berni does have the opportunity riversedge May 2016 #126

I completely disagree. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #127

After California maybe if the Democratic Party opens up Armstead May 2016 #131

Wow. Cary May 2016 #132

No, everyone gets to vote, period. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #134

All excellent points. Laser102 May 2016 #135

K & R most enthusiastically. Thank you, Cali, for risking this reasonable and realistic analysis. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #137

I disagree nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #139

I agree with Cali that it is over, and I agree with you about the CA ballot issues... JCMach1 May 2016 #144

DWS is not going anywhere nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #148

sorry cali, you lost me on this one. Just give up and lay down, yeah, good strategy. We are litlbilly May 2016 #140

I hope you don't give up after the last vote is counted nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #141

It's time to stop making a big deal out of nothing. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #142

Oh, goody. Another "Bernie should drop out" post. nt antigop May 2016 #143

they have all been so persuasive reddread May 2016 #160

The Clintons are vindictive. They're surrogates said they'd shut him of any speaking slot after NY Arazi May 2016 #145

Establishment Democrats hate Bernie because he COMPLETELY and EASILY exposes their corruption. stillwaiting May 2016 #156

Bernie is NOT a quiter. Skwmom May 2016 #147

Thank you. Loki May 2016 #149

Raise money for downticket raises, many which are corporatists democrats. What a great idea. Skwmom May 2016 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors May 2016 #153

Sensible OP -- k & r obamanut2012 May 2016 #159