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dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
70. I liked Stein's comments, for the following reason
Tue May 10, 2016, 03:03 AM
May 2016

For decades now, I've been listening to women say how if women ran things, the world would be a better place, run with compassion, kindness, nurturing, diplomacy, non-aggression, and generally laying the opposite of all of the above on men and the patriarchy.

To that, I say bring it on! I'd be thrilled to live in such a world.

Hillary in no way embodies the promise of a less militant more nurturing leadership. I'd say the same for many women in power. I won't get into all of the issues involved with that, there are many, from having to conform to system norms to gain power, to some of the problems being human nature as much as they are male nature.

No matter the reason, at least not for purposes of this discussion. The sad reality is that electing a Margaret Thatcher, a Condoleeza Rice, a Claire McCaskill, a Hillary Clinton, a Sarah Palin, a Carly Fiorina, does nothing towards reaching those goals.

We not only have to elect or promote women to positions of power, we have to elect or promote the RIGHT women to positions of power. Jill Stein is such a woman. An up-and-comer is Seattle's Kshama Sawant (can't be POTUS, foreign-born). Elizabeth Warren (good on Wall St. issues, I need more convincing on other issues). Plenty of others too.

Hillary Clinton is not one of these women, and never will be. She has taken the other road, seeking full membership in and ideological solidarity with the forces that are the fundamental problem in our nation and our world.

Thank you Jill Stein for bringing this to the attention of many who would otherwise not have thought about it.

Coporate Facism arrived, wrapped in a flag and wearing a Ralph Lauren Pantsuit. Katashi_itto May 2016 #1
It Can Happen Here. Wait -- it already has. nt villager May 2016 #23
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #2
Online trolling doesn't pay much. Usually it's junior PR people CoffeeCat May 2016 #13
Who knows, perhaps Hill Trolls would do it for free. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #14
OP title has it backwards. JoePhilly May 2016 #3
Exactly. Thank you. In their world, no matter what the facts may be ... NurseJackie May 2016 #8
No, it's correct. Fawke Em May 2016 #25
LOL That's all you got? savalez May 2016 #42
Hillary attacked Jill Stein? JoePhilly May 2016 #45
Funny, David Brock's paid twitter campaign gets "news coverage" NorthCarolina May 2016 #4
I'm surprised the media woudl do something like that. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #16
Fuck Brock and his minions. Nothing Stein said was remotely disgusting cali May 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #10
I really know nothing about her but those comments are mild cali May 2016 #11
If we said this about your precious Hillary, you'd call us sexist. Fawke Em May 2016 #27
What makes her a POS in your opinion? Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #37
In fact, everything she said was factually-based. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author ronnykmarshall May 2016 #55
Just an observation: "Clinton Supporters" on the internet are as meaningless as Stein is... brooklynite May 2016 #6
No it actually happened. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #69
Stein will think twice before taking sly pot shots. oasis May 2016 #7
It looks to me like Jill Stein launched the feud and Clinton supporters responded. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #9
Right-wing goons attack Jill Stein. Broward May 2016 #12
Democratic Underground has been transformed into Hate Democrats OutInTheOpen. nt onehandle May 2016 #15
I agree if you are referring to the ongoing attacks on Sanders and supporters, even after rhett o rick May 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author ronnykmarshall May 2016 #56
+1 socialistforpeople May 2016 #66
Disagree ≠ Hate Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #19
Fuck third partiers. Every fucking one of them. nt onehandle May 2016 #38
Now that's not sounding very liberal. Do you think you candidate isn't strong enough to rhett o rick May 2016 #64
why give that woman any air time? WhiteTara May 2016 #20
LOL "That woman" Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #21
so the only reason to give a woman air time is because she's well known? wendylaroux May 2016 #31
Does anyone believe Jill Stein would be a good President? zappaman May 2016 #22
Certainly better than Trump or Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #24
Yep Ned_Devine May 2016 #28
Ayup. Fawke Em May 2016 #29
That wasn't the question. n/t zappaman May 2016 #40
OK. Clarification provided. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #44
yes Fairgo May 2016 #58
Yes. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #53
Fuck Ralph Nader...nt SidDithers May 2016 #26
Fuck running Third Wayers. Fawke Em May 2016 #30
"Fuck Ralph Nader"...nt ???? whatever floats your boat sid wendylaroux May 2016 #33
If the Democratic Party wasn't veering hard right,... HooptieWagon May 2016 #36
But it is never their fault Mnpaul May 2016 #72
Good. I like it when Democrats FIGHT BACK! nt LaydeeBug May 2016 #32
Thank you BrockBros. HooptieWagon May 2016 #34
Well, Stein launched the first salvo. Beacool May 2016 #35
Jill Stein can fuck off. NT Adrahil May 2016 #39
Thank you! ronnykmarshall May 2016 #52
Jill stein is another in a long line of whiny ultraleft wing do nothing's...she has nothing to offer beachbumbob May 2016 #41
+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #46
+1 greatlaurel May 2016 #54
Are they really that stupid, or are they just being deliberately obtuse? nt Zorra May 2016 #43
Zorra—We have a big country. We have a big world. Plenty of people are, I shall say, fools. CobaltBlue May 2016 #49
Since we are always told that internet byplay must be an undercover op Starry Messenger May 2016 #47
BTW: If Hillary voters [or hired associates] are doing this…it doesn't speak optimistically for HRC. CobaltBlue May 2016 #48
Jill Stein Is A Vote-Splitting Third Party Candidate Vogon_Glory May 2016 #50
Good ronnykmarshall May 2016 #51
How does the OP not violate the TOS??? Gomez163 May 2016 #57
It doesn't. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #59
greens need to disband and just... artyteacher May 2016 #60
Jill Stein launched the feud with ad hom attack against Hillary. yellowcanine May 2016 #61
More like Jill started in on Hillary and people challenged her on it. hrmjustin May 2016 #62
Check again it sounded like she was just talking about the values Hillary will bring to the job Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #67
No i read it and my point still stands. If a candidate goes after another candidate they know there hrmjustin May 2016 #68
Social media 101: limit your smack talk to those in your own league. oasis May 2016 #63
Jill thanks the BrockBros for the free publicity. HooptieWagon May 2016 #65
I liked Stein's comments, for the following reason dreamnightwind May 2016 #70
Wow that's a really thoughtful and insightful comment Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #71
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