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2016 Postmortem

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jwirr

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39. I think one more thing we Bernie supporters have accomplished
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:52 PM
Apr 2016

this election will be to make the D party even smaller that it already is. There was a time that we had a huge majority over both Independents and Rs. But the Independents are now bigger than we are.

In the next election this is going to make a big difference. Closed primaries will tell us absolutely nothing because the real power will be the Independents - especially if all of us leave the Democratic Party like we are saying we will.

Also there will likely be a third party candidate that will challenge the Democratic candidate outside the party unless they learn the less of this election. We do not want to be corporatists anymore.

The little Democratic Party is going to have to make some real changes if it want to keep its influence. But I don't think either Hillary, Bill or their supporters care about the party of the future. They are in it for themselves and they do not care how much harm they are doing to the party.

Words matter [View all] angrychair Apr 2016 OP
I know I will make some changes. djean111 Apr 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #2
More than that angrychair Apr 2016 #5
I am often mystified by the comparative attention... pat_k Apr 2016 #10
It's a two-party system. Vote "R" or vote "D", anything else is meaningless. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #36
I think one more thing we Bernie supporters have accomplished jwirr Apr 2016 #39
Single Payer exists just across our border. It's not a unicorn or a pony. Canada isn't a myth. think Apr 2016 #3
Saw a post yesterday that essentially said love it or leave it mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #6
I've been hearing "love it or leave it" since the '60's. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #32
The translation is "Shut the fuck up and agree with us" mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #38
We are all fighting for stronger primary and secondary education platforms that will benefit all. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #4
I would love to believe you angrychair Apr 2016 #8
"I would love to believe you" NCTraveler Apr 2016 #9
Yes, my advocating for the struggling angrychair Apr 2016 #12
I would love to believe you. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #13
I'm trying to be polite angrychair Apr 2016 #15
"I would love to believe you." NCTraveler Apr 2016 #16
ok angrychair Apr 2016 #17
I don't believe you. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #18
And who will fund it? HRC claims she will close some loopholes rhett o rick Apr 2016 #19
I'm going to trust that you can read your own post. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #23
How sad that you choose to mock and ridicule instead of discuss. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #24
You asked and answered in your own post. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #25
What is so odd is those that support Clinton disparage the left rhett o rick Apr 2016 #31
I don't think I'm disparaging the left. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #34
I haven't gone thru her new stand on education but I have gone thru some of her rhett o rick Apr 2016 #35
I think what you running into is the cynicism that has been engrained.... Armstead Apr 2016 #37
It's hard for me to 840high Apr 2016 #27
When people choose sides based on the candidate more than policies ... Martin Eden Apr 2016 #7
Of all of it, the "no we can't" message is the most incidious... pat_k Apr 2016 #11
Excellent post. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #21
Same here felix_numinous Apr 2016 #14
The party of Third Way has left us. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #20
The question has been asked before. "Am I my brother's keeper?" The neolib, 3rd Way, answer is NO! Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #22
Stress test Califonz Apr 2016 #26
She'll take it with her usual 840high Apr 2016 #28
Few things ignite nastiness among establishment Dems Beowulf Apr 2016 #29
K and R. Fuck 'em. ( Pardon the vulgarity.) Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #30
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