2016 Postmortem

beedle

(1,235 posts)

33. Nonsense.

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:57 PM

Mar 2016

Most people don't go to the doctor for no reason. There are a few, but those are the exceptions.

But even if they do, the more you go to the doctor for minor issues the more you save in preventing more serious complications from not going to the doctor because it costs too much.

prevention saves money, and seeing a doctor before a minor issue gets out of control is called 'prevention'.

Name me a 'free' healthcare system in the world that costs more than the 'capitalist' healthcare system in the USA .... surely with all those 'free' healthcare countries out there to study, there must be at least one of them paying more than the US because of people visiting their doctor too much?

Right wing republican talking points.

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People don't value what's free [View all] auntpurl Mar 2016 OP

Ancedotes from across the pond not withstanding, are you really begrudging people for seeing a doc? DFab420 Mar 2016 #1

Yes, I absolutely begrudge people who waste doctors' time. auntpurl Mar 2016 #3

What about those who need a doctors note just to have a sick day artislife Mar 2016 #29

It is a law in the UK that employers ask for a doctors note after 5 days off sick. auntpurl Mar 2016 #42

We are not that lucky here. I missed a half day and needed one for work. Autumn Mar 2016 #71

I am American. auntpurl Mar 2016 #74

It won't be free, our taxes would pay for it. As it is our tax dollars pay for those Autumn Mar 2016 #77

I have a friend who wound up partially paralyzed because he dropped a dresser on his toe. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #64

Do you have hard statistics to prove this narrative accounts for the debt? Ash_F Mar 2016 #73

I, for one, value free things: Air free of pollutants, Water free of toxic fracking solution! TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #92

i think this is a legitimate PoV redruddyred Mar 2016 #107

Gonna have to agree Fairgo Mar 2016 #5

I'm not advocating trashing the NHS. auntpurl Mar 2016 #8

You've forgotten your civics class. Sanders is a US Senator riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #44

Do you have a link for that? auntpurl Mar 2016 #55

You are welcome to change your system all you like. theaocp Mar 2016 #2

We pay a fortune in taxes for the NHS auntpurl Mar 2016 #4

Faint at how much our defense budget is by comparison. theaocp Mar 2016 #19

Changing the defense budget in America is going to be an uphill battle auntpurl Mar 2016 #46

It might be your system but you don't have to use it do you? Autumn Mar 2016 #69

So you aren't complaining that it's "free", you're compaining about "taxes". delrem Mar 2016 #87

mostly that sort of thing is viral redruddyred Mar 2016 #108

People only value health when it costs as much as a house? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #6

thank you. And since when is paying taxes "free"? dana_b Mar 2016 #9

At the point of purchase, it's free. auntpurl Mar 2016 #14

I'm a nurse dana_b Mar 2016 #34

Sincere question: are they not eligible for ACA? auntpurl Mar 2016 #49

I know. It doesn't cover enough dana_b Mar 2016 #59

That is awful. auntpurl Mar 2016 #61

I agree with you dana_b Mar 2016 #62

Sure it's covered, if you can afford to pay your share. If you can't no worry, just have a bakesale. Autumn Mar 2016 #70

american hospitals brewing superbugs very quickly too redruddyred Mar 2016 #109

Uh, no. auntpurl Mar 2016 #10

There's a big scale between £10 to go to the doctor lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #60

+1,000,000 phantom power Mar 2016 #72

It isn't free. Duh. demmiblue Mar 2016 #7

No it isn't. It costs an absolute fortune. auntpurl Mar 2016 #11

Lol, ok. You do realize you are on a Democratic board? n/t demmiblue Mar 2016 #28

I sure do. auntpurl Mar 2016 #52

Beats the hell out of paying insurance premiums only to have coverage denied. arcane1 Mar 2016 #78

When you say it costs a fortune compared to our system in jwirr Mar 2016 #113

Nothing is free hibbing Mar 2016 #102

"People go to the doctor for seriously ANYTHING here." Wilms Mar 2016 #12

Sure. auntpurl Mar 2016 #16

Thanks. Interesting to note. Wilms Mar 2016 #35

It definitely does. There's been research. auntpurl Mar 2016 #56

Might have been an idea to come in with that research. Wilms Mar 2016 #67

So how do you feel about Medicaid and Medicare? jwirr Mar 2016 #114

I really think you are in the wrong place. kiva Mar 2016 #13

I've been posting on DU since 2002 auntpurl Mar 2016 #18

And why does that matter? kiva Mar 2016 #27

No Kidding...nt Jesus Malverde Mar 2016 #58

That's nice ibegurpard Mar 2016 #15

It's only my opinion. auntpurl Mar 2016 #22

Your OP is not moderate. It's conservative. nt stillwaiting Mar 2016 #32

Indeed ibegurpard Mar 2016 #53

I'm fiscally conservative, yes. auntpurl Mar 2016 #65

So go find a libertarian website. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2016 #82

The perfect conservative. Lecturing some to accept crumbs while you feast at a banquet. Autumn Mar 2016 #93

Autumn have I told you lately that I love you. jwirr Mar 2016 #116

Ae- shucks, not lately, I love you too Autumn Mar 2016 #117

TY jwirr Mar 2016 #118

You're a US expat living in a country with the best universal plan in the world, delrem Mar 2016 #105

so, should we charge for High School? Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #17

Of course not. auntpurl Mar 2016 #26

I agree with Bernie and disagree with you. 50 years ago, you may be right but no longer. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #37

a basic education ... beedle Mar 2016 #45

earning a dgree... BigMin28 Mar 2016 #86

Hypocondriacs go to the ER here instead nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #20

People go to A&E here too. You know why? auntpurl Mar 2016 #30

And... so let me see nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #31

We get 5 days total without a note. alarimer Mar 2016 #94

Tom's place of employment requires one for 3 nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #98

Adults understand these programs aren't "free" katsy Mar 2016 #21

K-12 is basic education. Everyone should get that. auntpurl Mar 2016 #36

your junior doctors suck redruddyred Mar 2016 #110

I'm sure rich people avoid doctors for minor ailments and demand to pay tuition. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #23

go ahead and make people in the UK pay for healthcare like us and see how that goes. litlbilly Mar 2016 #24

Not like you, but SOMETHING. GPs are in favour of it. auntpurl Mar 2016 #38

I dont think the UK is a good model because you have the same or close to the same litlbilly Mar 2016 #41

This may be the dumbest rationale for denying Americans a better life I've seen on DU whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #25

No, something in between. auntpurl Mar 2016 #40

NO it cant, as long as the insurance companies are involved, where they just take peoples money litlbilly Mar 2016 #43

You're a real brit? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #99

Nonsense. beedle Mar 2016 #33

I have been thinking the same thing, auntpurl FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #39

Lol! whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #100

For a rich person with an independent income, everything is free by this definition. raging moderate Mar 2016 #47

Wow I hear the same thing about people on welfare from tea partiers. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #48

Sanders is proposing tuition free college. All other costs would still be on the student riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #50

The only time I go to the doctor is when I think what I have might kill me....... Sivart Mar 2016 #51

Meh. Conservative talking points. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2016 #54

just stop nt wendylaroux Mar 2016 #57

There's a reason your POV is called the MYTH of Moral Hazard suffragette Mar 2016 #63

Very interesting article; thanks for posting it. auntpurl Mar 2016 #66

On the other hand, more info from article you posted suffragette Mar 2016 #76

Exactly this. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #97

#1, health care in the UK costs less than in the US and gets better results. denverbill Mar 2016 #68

You are so right; Republicons are delusional about most people's doctor visits. raging moderate Mar 2016 #83

What a load of hogwash. I've spoke with many Brits who love their health care and education. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #75

People are shielded from real costs here in the US also. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2016 #79

Another conservative voice in DU Trajan Mar 2016 #80

Which must be why Hillary won't let us see her speeches..... daleanime Mar 2016 #81

Well, you'd better work to end the UK's NHS then! delrem Mar 2016 #84

Hey auntpurl, I have a little story for you. Avalux Mar 2016 #85

The value is the actual education received by the student. Right wingers seem to gloss over this. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #88

You say that doctors "talk about it in the media all the time"... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #89

"Seventy two per cent of people declared the NHS to be "a symbol of what is great about Britain delrem Mar 2016 #91

You are a US American expat, and your opinion doesn't map with general UK opinion. delrem Mar 2016 #90

There is more money to save via prevention than by letting minor conditions deteriorate. nt LostOne4Ever Mar 2016 #95

This is why countries with single payer universal basic plans quickly highlight prevention. delrem Mar 2016 #104

Yes I certaintly don't value my right to vote or right to free speech ky_dem Mar 2016 #96

People who understand how things work know that 'things' provided by government elleng Mar 2016 #101

I know of some insurance companies who would love to take your nation into their embrace. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #103

i agree with you, to a point. redruddyred Mar 2016 #106

I need a dislike button gollygee Mar 2016 #111

Aunty Purl over here when we go to the doctor for anything jwirr Mar 2016 #112

Yes, yes. It's much better for people to only go to a doctor when they think they are going to die killbotfactory Mar 2016 #115

For every person that goes to the doctor for every little thing Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #119