2016 Postmortem

merrily

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14. A highly misleading statement put out by the Hillary campaign and

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:10 PM

Mar 2016

echoed by complicit, partisan establishment media.

First, It refers to the short time that Hillary and Sanders were in the Senate at the same time.

Second, OF COURSE, both of them voted with the Democratic Caucus most of the time.

Third, the Senate is a very conservative body and many of the votes are ceremonial.

Fourth, when Sanders voted differently from Hillary, it was on very important issues, like the Iraq War.

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I finally found something to agree with Sanders on [View all] MFM008 Mar 2016 OP

Not only an American Jew, but also someone who lost relatives in the Holocaust merrily Mar 2016 #1

He expected to be able to video conference in. A courtesy granted to Kerry and Gingrich... Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #4

Ah, thank you Luminous Animal. I had a feeling it might not be merrily Mar 2016 #7

Its a good speech. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #20

Likely, thus also a brave speech. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #41

He's right, of course. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #58

I watched as much as I could stomach panader0 Mar 2016 #28

bless him and his honesty renate Mar 2016 #52

are you a Clinton supporter? nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #2

. merrily Mar 2016 #10

one of my favorite sayings hollysmom Mar 2016 #34

I love that smiley. Inquisitions and neo McCarthyism, not so much. merrily Mar 2016 #36

yes MFM008 Mar 2016 #3

I'm sure you've read all you can about Clinton's involvement in pushing to bomb Libya Matariki Mar 2016 #6

Most of us are not anti Israel, but we do see the atrocities that Israel has committed. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #8

Sanders & Clinton voted the same 93% of the time in the Senate TheDormouse Mar 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #9

Nice try but Sanders is a progressive and Clinton is a conservative. Need I remind you that rhett o rick Mar 2016 #12

They voted 9 out of 10 times the same and they're opposite sides of he political spectrum?!? REALLY! uponit7771 Mar 2016 #13

lol TheDormouse Mar 2016 #18

That's only true if you think a procedural vote carries the same weight as the IWR or patriot act. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #23

So they vote the same 85% of the time, now we're talking syntax... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #25

The question is how they differ on the most important issues. Not voting on a post office JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #37

Like guns? The hubris of the Sanders camp is that they STILL think they can define what's progress uponit7771 Mar 2016 #40

She voted to give Bush authority to kill innocent Iraqis. She supported deregulation of rhett o rick Mar 2016 #26

Sanders voted to give gun mans uneeded immunity, he can't throw stones on judgement or uponit7771 Mar 2016 #29

500,000 innocent Iraqis died and 5 million had their lives ruined. Keep it in perspective. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #42

and 30,000 Americans die every year from guns ... we've been over this before ... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #45

First of all the proposed law would have been unconstitutional and wouldn't have done a thing. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #60

I appreciate the hyperbole but facts can be stubborn: 93% nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #15

Make a list of the issues today and tell me who is more progressive. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #38

The person who didn't vote to give corporations unneeded immunity is more progressive uponit7771 Mar 2016 #43

The OP said s/he agrees with Sanders on only ONE issue TheDormouse Mar 2016 #44

a good discussion MFM008 Mar 2016 #54

A few percentage points doesn't always mean what they want it to ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #35

They refuse to compare issue for issue. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #39

A highly misleading statement put out by the Hillary campaign and merrily Mar 2016 #14

SO 85% of the time doesn't change things too much, nicking picks at that point uponit7771 Mar 2016 #27

Not to 'grab-precisely-at-louse-larvae', but the phrase is "picking nits". aidbo Mar 2016 #50

Sorry merrily, I just read this after I commented. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #48

No apologies necessarily. You have every right to postever what you post merrily Mar 2016 #51

He has a lot more time law making, than just his and her Senate time. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #46

However, she had all those SoS years....much more important artislife Mar 2016 #49

you are correct - she just does not measure up SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #53

Anyone surprised by Hillary taking a hard right, likud-friendly Israel stance hasnt been paying attn Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #11

It's consistent with any number of things in her own history and also with the merrily Mar 2016 #22

I beg to differ. I know a lot of Israelis, and some close friends lived there in the 90s Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #24

Did my post say Israelis and Palestinians, or did I say those in power on both sides? merrily Mar 2016 #30

You're right, you did say those in power. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #56

No worries at all. merrily Mar 2016 #59

Sharon appeared to make sure, at the last moment, Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #47

Some would say that, and some would say Arafat torpedoed the thing at the last minute. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #57

Oh, let's not have that debate here. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #61

That's the only thing you found you agree with him on? Deadshot Mar 2016 #16

No kidding Doctor_J Mar 2016 #19

Must be a hardcore Republican if all he/she agrees with Bernie on is this one thing. Deadshot Mar 2016 #21

In fairness, most hard core Republicans are very protective of Israel. It goes with the merrily Mar 2016 #32

I've been undecided throughout the entire primary process, until today Blaukraut Mar 2016 #17

I was unaware of the level of unemployment in Gaza. Not surprised there is unrest. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #31

so was I. It's shocking n/t Blaukraut Mar 2016 #33

Thank you for your post noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #55