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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why I NEVER want to hear another word about BERNIE BROS on DU again [View all]Lizzie Poppet
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Why I NEVER want to hear another word about BERNIE BROS on DU again [View all]
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
OP
Fun thread, right? I am shocked what I started. And I thought this was a positive thread, at first.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#218
***Note to Bernie supporters: I urge you not to engage this one,some intentionally miss the point***
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#5
***Note to Hillary supporters: I urge you to push back on the idea that Berniebros do not exist.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#9
Linkhere . Quoting someone's own words back at them is not an "attack by BernieBros".
Electric Monk
Mar 2016
#30
It's not the change of opinion, it is his wallowing in volitile and extreme rhetoric no matter what
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#187
Everyone is free to change their minds. But sometimes it beggars belief when the
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#298
Thank you Nance. We will not forget or allow some to assert it doesn't exist and never did.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#28
You continue to miss the point. You earned every single 'nasty comment' for your hypocritical flip
Electric Monk
Mar 2016
#195
Perfect example of Berniebro behavior which is BULLYING. Blame the victim.
KittyWampus
Mar 2016
#309
Noting what people have themselves said on any given topic is bullying? Then you must hate Obama.
Electric Monk
Mar 2016
#325
Sure. If I really want to waste my time, I'll debate theology with religious people
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#113
Elizabeth Warren - an absolute icon of the True Progressives (TM) - was, as you've pointed out,
workinclasszero
Mar 2016
#197
well I think folks that toss your old words when you have changed are gaslighting
riversedge
Mar 2016
#105
The same way that people quoting Hillary's own words back are being 'abusive' right?
Kentonio
Mar 2016
#148
Nope, we have proof, that's the difference. How many links would you want?
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#316
I look forward to seeing them. I want to post them in that 1000+ comment OP too. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#118
Nope, we have kicked several old threads proving our point, then you guys get mad.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#313
There are no Hillary assholes swarming the internet to trash anyone who breathes a word
KittyWampus
Mar 2016
#311
And some perpetuate and protect abuse by pretending it doesn't happen.
shadowandblossom
Mar 2016
#127
How about I call you a Clintonbro? You attack Sanders supporters at every turn.
DemocraticWing
Mar 2016
#31
Sure, you could try. And I would ask for examples where I and other folks ganged up on people
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#37
Yeah, that sure seems to be the anecdotal assertion. And when people ask for actual examples
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#68
Yeah, you know, the recipient of the behavior is probably a much better judge of whether its
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#79
So do I. And I am sure Howard Dean and Elizabeth Warren and all the countless others have had
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#84
Oh it IS drama. Insults and bullying are definitely part of the definition of drama.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#98
It's definitely bullying. It's ad-hominem, unrelated to the issues and nasty bullying. But you knew
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#104
I have no idea who that is. She obviously didn't get a lot of support as Obama had a landslide
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#121
Nope. Neither she nor any other Clinton supporter tried to bully me in 2008.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#129
This seems as though it is a personal matter, for you, and I get that.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#135
If it were only me, I would say, OK, its something I did wrong. I'm honest with myself.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#137
It was far too little, far too late. But it is instructive that Bernie finally felt the need
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#321
Well we could always start calling Hillary supporters what they are called on twitter, fb and other
jillan
Mar 2016
#6
I don't call Bernie supporters Bernie Bros. I call Bernie Bros, Bernie Bros.
shadowandblossom
Mar 2016
#134
What is sad is there are no longer any consequences for assholes posting these screeds.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#32
No you do not. It was vile, and that post will not soon be forgotten by me at least.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#47
Most the time I see the claim but can't make heads or tails on what the claim was about.
Kalidurga
Mar 2016
#138
Opening the jail doors certainly has made this place very classy and less contentious!
bbgrunt
Mar 2016
#101
Since when are we the party of mass incarceration, figuratively or literally?
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2016
#185
It is not Time who linked the BerniBRos with the disabled guy- but YOU did in
riversedge
Mar 2016
#65
I am not defending these BernieBro hashtags #BernTheWitch #MississippiBerning
riversedge
Mar 2016
#83
No but his comments are a forceful statement on Bernie Bros when put in that context
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#94
Well said. And we won't allow Sanders supporters to pretend that behavior never existed.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#14
Nope. Hillary supporters did not engage in that combination of nasty, swarming and bullying
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#24
And see, there you go proving my point. Instead of advocating for your candidate and trying
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#49
Nope, and it would be impossible for me to do. It requires hundreds of people at a minimum. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#56
Steve, Hillary supporters certainly have engaged in that and here are the screen caps
pinebox
Mar 2016
#120
A small subset. That's a good start. Now can wecall out the jackass subset in Hillary's camp too?
DemocraticWing
Mar 2016
#35
Of course. I've never denied that assholes and generally awful people support Hillary as well.
NuclearDem
Mar 2016
#38
They have been the most prolific because they vastly outnumber Hillary supporters.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#40
Nope, its not a misunderstanding. There are too many examples and not enough pushback.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#42
Agreed. And it is something many times worse when it is hundreds of comments bullying someone with
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#41
All of which is fine the first 3-7 days it happened back in the May-June timeframe. After that...
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#44
It's been a back and forth for months. Hard to put a lid on all-out war waged by people I don't know
DemocraticWing
Mar 2016
#50
It really wasn't back and forth early on. When it became clear for me was August black lives matter
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#55
OK, and how many other Clinton supporters joined in the attack? Do you have a link.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#63
Because Hillary people have more trouble getting their cable modem to work if that nice boy from
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#75
See riveredge's #65 above. I have no idea why the OP linked this person to that term...
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#76
whats ugly is that someone made up this stupid fucking term to insult Sanders supporters.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#78
i have not seen one fucking example of supposed "bernie bro" behavior which is any worse than the
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#85
No, the examples are always shit like "howard dean says they're real! Sanders says theyre real!"
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#95
Nope, they're not always like that at all. There is a nearly 1000 post OP here you keep
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#99
You are talking about someone pulling your words from 2008, and I just addressed that.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#106
Got me, most of the Bernie supporters I know are older women. With older men, second and
Live and Learn
Mar 2016
#153
If you watch the clip, The Young Turks absolutely eviscerate the meme.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#164
Whoever did that, it was clearly someone wrapped way too fucking much up in DU drama.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#168
Im not saying there arent supporters of sanders who are assholes, or tone deaf
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#171
"BernieBros" are a product of the syphilitic mind of smear merchant David Brock. /
FlatBaroque
Mar 2016
#210
Yes. One thing I would add, though, is the point of that post was to suggest that people actually
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#211
The smear is that many or most DU Bernie supporters (or other online group) are Bernie Bros, or...
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#97
Its like arguing over how many angels can do the macarena on the head of a pin
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#111
It's a shameful part of this primary, but not shameful for Bernie supporters.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#110
And scroll down to the comments. There was no bullying of her in the comments. Fail.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#131
So much this: "You all thought you could bully your revolution into existence"
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#125
And we have spent the last couple of years talking about bullying in schools and elsewhere and that
upaloopa
Mar 2016
#133
Yes, I think that hurt him very badly. Are you suggesting Sanders strength is the Berniebros?
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#198
Which would make it shameful to post in your opinion because for some odd reason you
Live and Learn
Mar 2016
#155
Revision classes? I suggest you take of your revision glasses altogether.
Live and Learn
Mar 2016
#161
You don't get to attack other people when your bigotry is on full display.
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#300
I was an English major long ago. I am more impressed with your vocabulary than with some of
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#305
Thanks for the backhanded compliment. I'll take it anyway, backwards or forewards.
Surya Gayatri
Mar 2016
#308
They are a very real very vocal minority. If you want to not hear about them, they need to go away.
PeaceNikki
Mar 2016
#169
"A monolith of privileged Americans who are caught in the fad of celebrity." Well put.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#177
"BernieBros" does not characterize all of his base, but it does characterize some
Tarc
Mar 2016
#180
See, you're going to keep hearing about Bernie-Bro behavior, as long as you keep on
synergie
Mar 2016
#199
Yes, there Is a ‘BernieBro’ Problem. Your denial is fomenting mistrust of harassment victims in a si
PeaceNikki
Mar 2016
#201
I've decided to refer to anyone who uses that nauseating pejorative as "Hillstapo."
Lizzie Poppet
Mar 2016
#266
It's a huge fucking issue. I think there were some serious problems with white people generally
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#245
Nicely done. I can only do that with math and science books. LOL. And politics.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#254
It will be really nice when you provide the documentation you've compiled.
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#301
a particular group of privileged white males came up with the term BernieBros. They created the
seabeyond
Mar 2016
#230
The agressive, insulting, condescending, rude men I've seen are ALL Hill's Bros...
senz
Mar 2016
#284
I alert every time I see that slur. It's calling someone racist and misogynist and should be hidden.
cui bono
Mar 2016
#285
Sometimes I get confused by "Bernie Bro". What confuses me is videos like these:
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#286
Once again, this is a problem within Sanders' support base, identified by the man himself
Tarc
Mar 2016
#291
This is how we should respond to the meme now, thanks to Warren DeMontague. >>>
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#293
The point is whooshing over your head; Sanders identified a misogynist element of his base
Tarc
Mar 2016
#296
They always run into that problem when trying to assert "Berniebros" don't exist
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#322
If hundreds of Clinton supporters gang up on someone with rude statements I will
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#323
What about the bernie bros who attacked Joan Walsh's and Cecile Richard's daughters?
Gothmog
Mar 2016
#330
What is the cute name for the Clinton surrogates who trashed Millennial women?
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#332