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2016 Postmortem

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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:00 PM Mar 2016

"This fire needs gas." (Sidney to Hillary, 10/26/2012) [View all]

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/19163

H: FYI, PAUL BLUMENTHAL. SID

From: Sidney Blumenthal
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2012-10-24 22:51
Subject: H: FYI, PAUL BLUMENTHAL. SID

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05797723
Date: 11/30/2015
RELEASE IN PART B6

From: Sidney Blumenthal
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 10:51 AM
To: Subject: Re: H: fyi, Paul Blumenthal. Sid

I am working very closely now with American Bridge. I dictated a script for Cher for an ad on women, will learn whether she agreed to do it; ordered a reel on Republican outrageous comments on women, which is done and will soon be released; number of other things TBD later, whatever I can think of. It's hit and miss. Biden needs to raise his decibel level on Republican rape rage and Romney as supporter, enabler and Profile in Cowardice. To wit: •318934.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/25/richard-mourdock-abortion_n_2 Will tell Klain and John Martilla (who remains close to Biden).

Can you get all the Democratic women senators to issue a joint statement about the Republican rape rage, women's rights and Romney's enabling and cowardice? This fire needs gas.

Original Message From: H <[email protected] >
To: 'sbwhoeop
Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:37 am
Subject: Re: H: fyi, Paul Blumenthal. Sid

Does anybody but us care?

From: Sidney Blumenthal
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2U12 1U:U2 Am Eastern btanaard Time
To: H
Subject: H: fyi, Paul Blumenthal. Sid

http:/ /www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2 oi2/io/ 25/american-crossroads-swift-boat n 2020651.html


The bold is my emphasis. This is one of the MANY email exchanges between the Secretary of State and the guy who Obama BANNED FROM HIS TEAM in 2009. (Source: New York Times, August 16, 2009: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/us/politics/16emanuel.html?_r=0.) Please note the following email showing the communication about not "outing" this directive being ignored...


SYDNEY BLUMENTHAL

From: Cheryl Mills
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2009-06-04 07:38
Subject: SYDNEY BLUMENTHAL

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05761825
Date: 06/30/2015 RELEASE IN FULL

From: Mills, Cheryl D <MillsCD©state.gov >
Sent Friday, June 05, 2009 11:02 PM
To:
Subject: Fw: Sydney Blumenthal

Fyi From: Crowley, Philip 3
To: Mills, Cheryl D
Sent: Fri Jun 05 19:38:20 2009
Subject: Sydney Blumenthal

FYI, we have heard from an AP reporter that Sydney outed himself about coming to the Department, mentioning it without realizing he was talking to someone who actually covers our building. PJ 34


No one gives "free" advice at these levels. The Clinton Foundation was paying Blumenthal $120k a year and Hillary was listening to him AGAINST OBAMA'S INSTRUCTIONS. One of the most damning is a complete analysis of Libya from April, 2011 that influenced her Libya decision making - https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/10115#efmBESCAL - and turned out to be WRONG.

Email storage bores me and I am a tech person. This isn't an email scandal - the email is what is called a PAPER TRAIL for inappropriate influence peddling.

You see, a former President of the United States (Bill Clinton) was using OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY (donations to his Foundation) to pay people to influence his WIFE'S DECISION MAKING WHILE SHE WAS SECRETARY OF STATE UNDER A DIFFERENT PRESIDENT AND SHE WASN'T DISCLOSING IT TO HER BOSS.

Money and access to the people in power - this is how a former President maintained his influence at the highest levels of government. And now he and his wife are going to be back there. Most members of this board will ignore this because "it's just an email scandal."

No. For the first time in recorded history, you can actually VIEW THE EVIDENCE TRAIL.

Here's a link -- https://search.wikileaks.org/advanced?q=Blumenthal+&exclude_words=&words_title_only=&words_content_only=&publication_type%5B%5D=42&sort=0#results

To be fair, this is stuff the Republicans have been doing for decades -- AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM.

Pretend for thirty seconds that the guy doing this crap was named George W. Bush Jr. and he was collecting millions of dollars from corporations, then using that money to pay people to push his "sponsors" agenda and subverting all of the rules about lobbyists and disclosure of interests with back door emails.

Do you feel outraged? Well, the power of a name is that former President Bill Clinton and First Lady/Senator/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did it instead, and a significant number of people who should KNOW BETTER want to put the pair of them BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

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so now Bernie fans are upset about Hillary getting emails advising geek tragedy Mar 2016 #1
Read to the end - INFLUENCE PEDDLING. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #2
Wow former Sanders supporters UglyGreed Mar 2016 #11
Dude, I think a lot more is explained about why the "Independent" IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #17
I hear you UglyGreed Mar 2016 #18
Why don't you just say, "so now YOU..." Instead of Bernie fans? morningfog Mar 2016 #7
Two things nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #10
"UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05797723 " nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #12
No, he was handing confidencial NO FOR nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #14
Does this mean I am REALLY understanding this? IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #24
I have talked with people who have nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #25
Also, I feel very stupid for missing this... IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #26
you really haven't been paying any attention, have you? geek tragedy Mar 2016 #27
I thought it was an unsecured private network? IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #29
Did you miss the part where 840high Mar 2016 #53
The email scandal pales in comparison but I'm fully expecting the State Dept to whitewash Skwmom Mar 2016 #3
I think all of us are so used to ignoring the Republican outrage machine IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #8
Well, as an American is was thrilling to hear a foreign dictator (or one of his staff) when asked Skwmom Mar 2016 #73
The email scandal is a fig leaf... grasswire Mar 2016 #67
Do you believe we will learn FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #89
I imagine a White House where Lanny Davis, Syd Blumenthal, Debbie Wasserman FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #4
don't forget arne fuckup duncan elehhhhna Mar 2016 #5
don't forget "doctor" kissinger Raster Mar 2016 #52
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz leftofcool Mar 2016 #6
I understand. It's COMPLICATED and complicated things are boring. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #15
Yes, all of this; but, additionally, even Syd were not on any payrolls, it was unacceptable to amborin Mar 2016 #86
All I know is Hillary's policies in the middle east lead to spread of ISIS and terrorism everywhere Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #9
And caused horror and suffering we can never even imagine for millions. polly7 Mar 2016 #23
And Haiti. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #68
and led to genocide against black Africans in Libya, etc. amborin Mar 2016 #87
K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #13
Hillary using the GOP playbook. Not surprised... think Mar 2016 #16
"He brings a kinife, you bring a gun. He brings a gun , you bring a bazooka." DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #20
The OP is about Obama banning Sidney Blumenthal from having any involvement in the govt think Mar 2016 #21
El Sid was offering advice to screw the Rethuglicans. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #22
That was ONE of the many emails; he was a BANNED person IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #31
Do you/did you ask your boss who you can be friends with? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #32
I do not discuss confidential information about my job with my friends. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #33
Do I what? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #34
Do you share confidential information from your job with friends? IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #35
I solicit advice from everyone. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #36
I don't when it comes to confidential information. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #37
Maybe because he genuinely likes her and doesn't look for picayune reasons to crucify her? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #38
I think there is more going on, but I don't know what. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #39
What is the Clinton foundation doing? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #40
If I understand this correctly (and I may be wrong) IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #41
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #43
Ha! Found one of the DU links! IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #44
I will rely on a neutral agency and not value laden posters with ideological axes to grind. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #45
There is a link to the source - that article is not written by the DUer. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #46
Why should I accept the word of this or that writer and not the word... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #47
That question is answered in The Atlantic article link I gave you. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #48
You are giving me the subjective analysis of a value laden author. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #49
I think the quote I provided addressed the issues you raised. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #79
I am not surprised by the callousness of the comfortable toward the afflicted. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #82
Sigh. Except for... IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #83
In my initial post I conceded that there is "cronyism" involved in foundation administration. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #84
I understand. And maybe this is all just how "business" is done. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #88
+1 840high Mar 2016 #56
I sincerely doubt that. 840high Mar 2016 #55
Are you friend with President Obama DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #58
Are you? 840high Mar 2016 #61
I asked you first. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #62
My opinion was formed by 840high Mar 2016 #64
By reading articles and DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #72
OK that SoS was taking advice from a crony w/o any creds, who had biz interests in Libya? amborin Mar 2016 #85
He specifically did with Sid. 840high Mar 2016 #54
you must be very naive.. grasswire Mar 2016 #69
Great way to live one's life. Yea, you bet. pangaia Mar 2016 #78
K&R, Ida Briggs...K&R... nenagh Mar 2016 #19
They don't care what the Clinton's were doing with our tax dollars Kittycat Mar 2016 #28
They view Clinton first and country last. 840high Mar 2016 #57
You get to the nub of things at the end of your post Babel_17 Mar 2016 #30
K&R EndElectoral Mar 2016 #42
Hillary would have been fired by Obama if he knew this then ViseGrip Mar 2016 #50
You are forgetting his legacy 840high Mar 2016 #59
Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Mar 2016 #51
Drip, Drip, Drip,,,, gush... drip... drip.. Gush.... kristopher Mar 2016 #60
I can't either. How can 840high Mar 2016 #63
I guess if you believed this nonsense, it would be hard to understand. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #70
What nonsense? kristopher Mar 2016 #71
Please explain the nonsense part. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #76
Jeez. AzDar Mar 2016 #65
plus...the intel on Libya that Blumenthal was feeding to Hillary was faulty. grasswire Mar 2016 #66
Can I get a link for that? IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #80
Here's one... Oilwellian Mar 2016 #90
Recommend, Plus: Ida's and others links about Blumenthal. KoKo Mar 2016 #93
this is all so outrageoulsy bad amborin Mar 2016 #95
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #74
Most welcome, Uncle Joe. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #75
You did fine by me. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #77
The sharks are all planning another feeding frenzy of graft, Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #81
I think Obama is scared of Watergate Gwhittey Mar 2016 #91
well, he is in some jeopardy grasswire Mar 2016 #94
Kicked. nt MaeScott Mar 2016 #92
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