2016 Postmortem

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40. "Likely" and "probably" are your speculation. I wouldn't bet an election on either of them.

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Might the emails be grounds for impeachment? [View all] Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 OP

With this congress almost anything is grounds for impeachment. Agschmid Mar 2016 #1

Last I checked they haven't impeached anybody. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #2

They didn't try it with Pres. Obama Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #4

Maybe Obama will pardon her as one of his last acts and render the whole matter moot. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #3

Umm.... Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #11

I don't think the President can pardon away an impeachment anyways. NobodyHere Mar 2016 #19

not necessarily FreedomRain Mar 2016 #20

You're wrong leftynyc Mar 2016 #23

Caspar Weinberger SFnomad Mar 2016 #55

What Burdick v US actually established was the right to reject a pardon PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #62

Probably the biggest stretch yet SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #5

Actually she could be impeached before she ever takes office tularetom Mar 2016 #6

Impeach Obama because Hillary had a private server and wiped it? merrily Mar 2016 #7

No, Impeach a President H. Clinton as soon as she takes office. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #21

Oh, sorry! I completely missed what you were getting at. merrily Mar 2016 #29

Yes, the last time they impeached a Clinton we got Shrub right afterwards. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #31

Very different issues, IMO. merrily Mar 2016 #36

Gore distanced himself from Clinton because of the damage Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #48

Clinton did not take damage. His ratings went up, he could not seek re-election and he is still merrily Mar 2016 #53

I agree it hurt Gore - remember Bush had a slogan to bring back honor and decency karynnj Mar 2016 #69

That was my point in mentioning that I first saw Bush announce on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. merrily Mar 2016 #91

Your last sentence is fantastic! karynnj Mar 2016 #92

Thank you so much, karynnj. merrily Mar 2016 #94

I wouldn't put anything past the right wing morons. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #8

Technical point: EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #9

My point exactly Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #17

And in both cases, Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #25

Bill claimed he "compartmentalized." The CIA and Pentagon might say he was not merrily Mar 2016 #32

They tried to impeach Bill on charges that seemed to be less serious than ladjf Mar 2016 #10

They did impeach him. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #14

Apparently, I misused-used the word impeached. Thanks for the correction. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #18

A sitting President lying under oath to a grand jury is relatively serious, IMO. merrily Mar 2016 #38

You are very correct. But, I was the considering email security to be a ladjf Mar 2016 #42

I also very much mind the lies and half truths around the email issue, such as merrily Mar 2016 #50

Agreed. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #52

How are they going to impeach leftynyc Mar 2016 #58

Well, that's a killer good point. I don't know the answer. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #60

Where is it required the act had to occur while in office as president? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #70

First line in the wikipedia entry for impeachment leftynyc Mar 2016 #71

Well, according to that article cabinet secretaries can and have been impeached. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #73

So what? leftynyc Mar 2016 #74

The email scandal is very much a matter of when she was in the cabinet. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #75

Knock yourselves out leftynyc Mar 2016 #76

In Post #58 you wrote, "You can't impeach a SOS." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #80

And I was wrong leftynyc Mar 2016 #81

Facts be damned, it's all about "how much can we get away with?" Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #83

Like I said leftynyc Mar 2016 #84

Ah, patriotism. The last refuge of scoundrels. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #85

Ah - fascism leftynyc Mar 2016 #87

Fascism? lol Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #88

LOL - no security? leftynyc Mar 2016 #89

"They did it too!" is just an admission Hillary did it too. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #90

Impeachment is the mechanism for removing someone from office because of high crimes & misdemeanors EffieBlack Mar 2016 #105

Where is it written that your point are even valid? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #107

The investigation will likely be complete by then which will probably exonerate her. DCBob Mar 2016 #12

If those top secret emails are still top secret Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #16

Once the investigation is over and she is cleared of any nefarious activities.. DCBob Mar 2016 #22

They will argue that the Obama administration covered for her. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #27

You really are grasping now. DCBob Mar 2016 #37

Smart enough to call for a no fly zone in Syria. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #41

"Likely" and "probably" are your speculation. I wouldn't bet an election on either of them. merrily Mar 2016 #40

Just hedging a bit but I would give her a 95% chance of being cleared. DCBob Mar 2016 #49

Not surprising that your sheer speculation and a % you pulled out of your ear are good enough for merrily Mar 2016 #54

If so, the GOP will be desperate to delay the FBI investigation. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #13

The 'revolution' seems a little frayed. randome Mar 2016 #15

The Republicans made oral sex Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #24

They didn't make a sitting President lie under oath to a grand jury. merrily Mar 2016 #44

I'm no lawyer leftynyc Mar 2016 #26

That is an interesting point. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #28

That's a good question as it appears the consensus is the official's action... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #65

I would guess the state leftynyc Mar 2016 #66

It's widely believe that a President can't be criminally prosecuted while in office. That is why PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #67

But that was a crime done leftynyc Mar 2016 #68

LOL! So the premise of your OP is that she's already been elected! cwydro Mar 2016 #30

It is a hypothetical best case scenario for Clinton. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #34

Aha. cwydro Mar 2016 #47

the republians will certainly try; but Hillary will NEVER get elected president amborin Mar 2016 #33

To be determined. mmonk Mar 2016 #35

you need 2/3 of the Senate to convict Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #39

I believe the term impeached does not require conviction. mmonk Mar 2016 #43

Sorry, "Remove from office" is the correct term, not "convict" Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #45

No problem. Many of us had the same discussions here mmonk Mar 2016 #51

Convict is the correct term. SFnomad Mar 2016 #57

If Hillary is elected, toenail fungus will be a cause for impeachment. Vinca Mar 2016 #46

Congress will not impeach a newly elected first term president. LonePirate Mar 2016 #56

Only in your dreams. Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #59

We hace considered that nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #61

No, if you want to go so far as to call this a crime (at this stage of the game) Samantha Mar 2016 #63

No if I were going to fantasize, I'd imagine her being impeached for BENGHAZI! brooklynite Mar 2016 #64

I'm waiting for someone to start shooting melons in their backyard, and breathlessly msanthrope Mar 2016 #72

no n/t chillfactor Mar 2016 #77

Hillary could always "buy" her way out of impeachment with support for the TPP, fracking, etc. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #78

Of course they will begin impeqchment hearings on day one, were she ever elected. peacebird Mar 2016 #79

How bad would this look for the people of the U.S. monicaangela Mar 2016 #82

It doesn't matter. The simple fact is that with a Clinton in the WH, scandals and impeachment will magical thyme Mar 2016 #86

Don't put anything past republican congress. pat_k Mar 2016 #93

I think this misses the point. The "scandal" is right-wing bullshit. But the content of the emails Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #95

It isn't bullshit. She never should have done it. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #96

I agree it was an error, and I agree that she was godawful about admitting her error, but it is an Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #97

Not true. Nobody else had 22 top secret emails on a private server. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #98

We're on the same side here so don't take this as an attack, but didn't Colin Powell do this, too? Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #99

A couple classified emails. None top secret Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #103

And Bill Clinton runs as the VP itsrobert Mar 2016 #100

yes, but she won't be elected so it won't matter amborin Mar 2016 #101

was hillary president when the email and servers were an issue? beachbum bob Mar 2016 #102

No. EffieBlack Mar 2016 #104

Three years from now, in the middle of Clinton's first term as President... randome Mar 2016 #106