2016 Postmortem

TM99

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204. The perhaps it is time for Warren

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:02 PM

Feb 2016

to at least come out and say that.

All of this coyness is bullshit. Either endorse one or the other, or say I am not endorsing anyone until the primary is over.

See how simple that really is?

But because she does not, it makes one wonder why? Is she hedging her bets? Is she the progressive some believe her to be? Is she concerned about the Clinton Machine? What?

And in a free country with freedom speech, I am tickled pink that some are holding her feet to the fire. If the OP has the freedom to spew her venom with the whole Berniebro meme then surely these people have the same right? Correct?

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Elizabeth Warren is being swarmed for not endorsing Bernie Sanders [View all] KitSileya Feb 2016 OP

shameful. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #1

Her constituents telling her that they're disappointed in her is shameful? Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #7

"She works for us" brooklynite Feb 2016 #12

She's a United States senator. She works for all of us. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #15

some people get to vote for her or not and A LOT of them support Bernie. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #20

I pay her salary and she has to take my concerns into account as well. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #22

sure just like the republican do cuz you pay their salary too. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #25

I expect them to listen to me too but they lack the perspicacity to embrace my wise counsel./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #31

:) Barely glanced at this thread and almost entirely Hortensis Feb 2016 #223

Moral certainty is a tool that can be wielded for good or evil./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #233

Sigh, yes. Problem is it seems always to be wielded. What about Hortensis Feb 2016 #243

And a LOT of them don't. Deal with it. lunamagica Feb 2016 #130

And a lot of them DON'T support Bernie. If she were picking an endorsement based on the probable MADem Feb 2016 #184

Looks like the hillary people will have to get over it Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #241

Are you referring to that hoax New York Times article that said she was endorsing him? MADem Feb 2016 #245

Isn't that true of all Senators? merrily Feb 2016 #79

Except that's not really how it works. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #136

Sure, but she's not at your beck-and-call. Orrex Feb 2016 #160

Apparently "some people" think that they can bully her into making an endorsement. MADem Feb 2016 #178

Saying "I think you should do this" is bullying? Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #216

Go to the link. Some of the comments there are downright ugly. Quick sampler: MADem Feb 2016 #218

Okay, so some people are abrasive, and some people are weird Jesus freaks. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #228

I barely scratched the surface there--there are hundreds and hundreds of petulant, angry and MADem Feb 2016 #230

I suspect "fill in the blank" is "not vote for you" Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #231

I think she's going to stay right on the fence, and give her vote to the primary winner in MA if MADem Feb 2016 #234

I don't think it's going to come down to a contest. I think Hillary has it quite likely sewn up. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #235

Latest polls have them neck and neck. Four or five point difference. MADem Feb 2016 #244

I'd strongly advise her to get a little more clear and forward-thinking on pot legalization, then. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #249

She's ahead of Warren on the topic. MADem Feb 2016 #250

She doesn't hesitate to send me email when she wants my support on something. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #43

Exactly. If the fix had been in for Sanders, and all the federal Super Dupers had merrily Feb 2016 #82

It's true she does work for you yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #97

I guess it depends on what you consider winning. To me following ones conscience is the real win. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #118

The perhaps it is time for Warren TM99 Feb 2016 #204

Maybe, just maybe, she doesn't care who wins? MADem Feb 2016 #212

And you are free to tell her to pound sand and block her emails. MADem Feb 2016 #179

only the ones from MASS are her constituents treestar Feb 2016 #93

+1,000! We put her in that seat, and we can take her out, too. That's why she's not endorsing-- MADem Feb 2016 #183

Who indeed. Yet I can't help but think you took rather a different position when it was PP. Kentonio Feb 2016 #187

PP? Not clear on your meaning. Planned Parenthood? What? nt MADem Feb 2016 #198

Yes, when Planned Parenthood made their entirely unnecessary endorsement and split their support Kentonio Feb 2016 #209

PP can do what PP wants to do. MADem Feb 2016 #210

One of Hillary's best assets for keeping people from joining Sanders is... Sanders supporters stevenleser Feb 2016 #39

+1...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #61

That is a good point. KitSileya Feb 2016 #77

Oh yeah, not to mention none of them have any recollection of giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #80

lol! lovemydog Mar 2016 #260

+1 MaggieD Feb 2016 #90

But Hillary's campaign strategists couldn't figure that out, right? What a transparent crock of GoneFishin Feb 2016 #122

Alright we get it. iandhr Feb 2016 #153

No, it's been a nonstop campaign for 8 fucking months against "Sanders Supporters" here. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #214

+1 lunamagica Feb 2016 #132

Ridiculous assertion. Orsino Feb 2016 #155

+1. The perfect opening response. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #86

Shameful? Seriously? CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #106

Shameful? Seriously? yes. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #108

You lose all credibility with me CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #112

+1.nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #120

+10000 Duval Feb 2016 #165

I don't want credibility in General Discussion: Primaries . stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #168

Convenient isn't that they pressure her to endorse Hillary, then send the troops out to alienate her GoneFishin Feb 2016 #127

Nothing remotely shameful (in general) about this. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #145

So....it's "fine" that she "resisted the pressure" for one, but not the other? MADem Feb 2016 #182

It's what people do when they support a candidate. Primaries=Swarming ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #146

There you have it. Hillary supporters feel real democracy is "shameful" NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #161

Yes, yes, cluck cluck shameful harumph harumph quack cluck tsk tsk Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #215

Sounds like the country is desperate for real leadership. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #2

nothing wrong with applying pressure tk2kewl Feb 2016 #8

Actually, it's too bad Warren isn't running. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #3

Hillary would have smeared the heck out of her, like she's trying to do to Sanders. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #34

If Warren had run, I think we would have heard a lot of people saying Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #83

That dynamic would be different. I'm still extremely impressed with Sanders' campaign. w4rma Feb 2016 #88

Actually, the dynamic would be very similar. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #101

The desperate attempts to make all objections to HRC's campaign about "misogyneeeee!!!" are lame. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #236

Nonsense Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #238

Cool story, bro Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #213

Don't call me "bro." nt. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #222

Why not? It happens to me all the time. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #227

Don't be offensive. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #237

I dont take orders from people. I meant what I said. Your assertion up there is silly. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #246

I don't give a damn about Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #247

okay. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #248

If she was running... tarheelsunc Mar 2016 #261

sad. JaneyVee Feb 2016 #4

Those swarming Warren aren't helping Bernie's cause. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #5

Warren not endorsing Bernie isn't helping his cause. That's the problem. /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #24

Maybe she's not endorsing him for a reason. After all she's worked with him. Fla Dem Feb 2016 #81

And we know these are not Hillary or RNC or Karl Rove's employees how exactly? Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #6

Well, on facebook you can click on the comments and check. KitSileya Feb 2016 #10

State Department Facebook: DOS Spent $630,000 On 'Likes' For Social Media Pages, Report Indicates Zorra Feb 2016 #21

There you have it! Also.... KoKo Feb 2016 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #71

In others words the bought the ads Facebook tries to sell Historic NY Feb 2016 #107

"...these fans are, for the most part, fake." Zorra Feb 2016 #194

$630,000 of TAXPAYER MONEY! Which conveniently stopped when Kerry took over the job. arcane1 Feb 2016 #203

Exactly. If the two most progressive people end up with black eyes it doesn't take a rocket surgeon GoneFishin Feb 2016 #65

"it doesn't take a rocket surgeon" demwing Feb 2016 #96

You got it. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #105

Maybe Warren . . . Gamecock Lefty Feb 2016 #9

Yeah hey wait, isnt this a Lefty website? autonomous Feb 2016 #18

I ask myself that every time I come here. Hillary is RW though, so in a perverse way RiverLover Feb 2016 #26

I'm sure he just throws balls with his lefty but hates the left autonomous Feb 2016 #28

So everyone has to march lockstep? No, not at all. 7962 Feb 2016 #38

There's lockstep and there's pushing the "free stuff" lies from the right autonomous Feb 2016 #40

My reasons for backing sanders over clinton are many, 7962 Feb 2016 #53

I don't think it's demanding lockstep to call out bullshit right-wing talking points on DU. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #150

I guess we just differ on what a "Right wing talking point" is. 7962 Feb 2016 #174

I see that "the libruls just want free stuff" line from RW'ers constantly. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #190

If you'd been here for more than a couple of days you'd know it is. Fla Dem Feb 2016 #92

you are correct 7962 Feb 2016 #173

Since when is thinking I'm leftynyc Feb 2016 #129

+1. nt MADem Feb 2016 #206

Gamecock, I will be happy to discuss anything you when you are not using Lochloosa Feb 2016 #27

Yeah, you're right CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #113

Free Republic is thataway ---> Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #148

She supports the Democratic party, Sanders not so much. seaglass Feb 2016 #156

Warren was a Republican up to 1996. She preferred Reagan's approach to markets. MADem Feb 2016 #202

They attribute malice to everything, which takes away their credibility R B Garr Feb 2016 #11

If it's any consolation, my wife and I will still be supporting her. brooklynite Feb 2016 #13

Hillary supporters are so classy they would never stoop to this level Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #14

Sure, one or two Hillary supporters getting on Reich is the same as hundreds of Sanders supporters stevenleser Feb 2016 #42

The Hordes of Online Hillary Supporters (tm) autonomous Feb 2016 #49

You're trying way too hard. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #52

Wow, I have never had a national political pundit respond to me before Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #56

Take a look at DU, and your comments are validated. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #89

"Berniebros?" Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #16

As I said, I used that appelation deliberately KitSileya Feb 2016 #29

"letting me know your true colors." autonomous Feb 2016 #33

Careful...you'll get "brought to heel" talking like that! Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #139

that's what you do to superpredators autonomous Feb 2016 #164

Screw your divide and conquer techniques. jfern Feb 2016 #219

We The People Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #17

and of course there are Hillary fans who think nagging Bernie fans well work. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #19

They speak for me. Its incredibly disappointing that a) she didn't run & b) she won't stand up for RiverLover Feb 2016 #23

Endorsing candidates is not a part of a politician's duties to his/her constituents Tarc Feb 2016 #30

I hope you are talking about the Sanders supporters and not me KitSileya Feb 2016 #35

"It was a perfect example of rape culture" autonomous Feb 2016 #37

A woman says no to doing something, KitSileya Feb 2016 #44

Oh FFS. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #229

Yes them, not you :) Tarc Feb 2016 #55

Do you agree w/their statement- trying to get Warren to run was "a perfect example of rape culture"? Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #254

oh, like how "patriarchy" seems to mean "anything a woman does" by this point? MisterP Mar 2016 #263

It's pretty damn obvious SmittynMo Feb 2016 #32

I suspect Warren knows Hillary is our best bet to keep the WH. DCBob Feb 2016 #36

"Our best bet"??? With Hillary's 40% approval rating? Herman4747 Feb 2016 #41

Yep, all of Hillary's negatives don't come close to Sanders issues in a General. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #45

Well, look what I was able to find here: Herman4747 Feb 2016 #67

Already addressed by my sig line. But dont worry, your only the 500th DUer to try to say stevenleser Feb 2016 #171

Aw, Come on, guy, Let us know what you think! Herman4747 Feb 2016 #185

Already did. See my sig line. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #188

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #192

Already answered in my sig line. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #193

Okay, you forced me to have to go here: Herman4747 Feb 2016 #195

Already answered in my sig line. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #255

BSS don't see Bernie's huge GE flaws. redstateblues Feb 2016 #91

Bill Clinton Himself (your beloved candidate's husband)... Herman4747 Feb 2016 #159

That will improve dramatically once the general election campaign starts. DCBob Feb 2016 #48

Well, let's consider them, side-by-side: Herman4747 Feb 2016 #162

zomg, some people from New York know one another! n/t R B Garr Feb 2016 #172

What are the odds, huh? n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #258

hehe Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #69

The latest poll shows that 36 percent of voters trust her. INSANITY! (nt) CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #131

Things truly are becoming worrisome. Herman4747 Feb 2016 #163

Seeing how the GOP's "best bet" only gets 7% of the vote, 7962 Feb 2016 #175

+1 No truer words have been spoken this primary season. NT aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #57

I see a lot of comments begging for "endorse Secretary Clinton" krawhitham Feb 2016 #46

Warren doesn't endorse because she knows Bernie can't win. aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #47

Therein lies the problem Svafa Feb 2016 #207

Agreed. If she likes Sanders she should come out and say so. aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #208

Nobody in Congress want to get on the bad side of Hillary. There will be consequences. bahrbearian Feb 2016 #50

So Keith Ellison is stupid or suicidal? I don't think so. onenote Feb 2016 #66

Keith Ellison is Brave , Warren has more to loose. bahrbearian Feb 2016 #70

There will be Hill to pay! demwing Feb 2016 #104

Anyone can be anyone on the anonymous internet. Anyone can pretend to be Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #51

She can and should support who ever the hell she wants. MynameisBlarney Feb 2016 #54

Look at what the Hillarians are doing to Robert Reich. Octafish Feb 2016 #58

I'm quite sure the Podesta brothers never imagine or engage FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #59

That's too bad. But it does not erase the things that Hillary stands for, that I hate. djean111 Feb 2016 #60

UNDER THE BUS!!!!!! Adrahil Feb 2016 #62

Na, when the time comes, people who should be under there will know who they are nolabels Feb 2016 #73

If Liz is under the bus ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #259

That's a touching concern. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #63

If you're a public figure on social media then your putting yourself up liberalnarb Feb 2016 #64

It is a shameful thing to do. riversedge Feb 2016 #72

That's bullshit. If a nasty unconstructive sentiment toward E. Warren was genuine we would GoneFishin Feb 2016 #74

What nasty, nasty people. The same ones who have been telling DU'ers here Fla Dem Feb 2016 #75

+1, yep. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #256

Thus, justifying her decision to not endorse... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #76

Yes, Yes, I know Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #78

"rape culture" autonomous Feb 2016 #84

"we are misogynistic, dreamy eyed, racist, short sighted..." But not in this case. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #85

Try it from this side Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #141

You are different than most here, and you know it. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #142

All too often, I fear the proper descriptive word is Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #191

The memo got out to the troops. This smear meme is being spread in the Hillary Group now. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #87

Actually, it was first posted in the Hillary group. KitSileya Feb 2016 #114

The Bernie campaign strategy is.... MaggieD Feb 2016 #94

Silly, since her endorsement treestar Feb 2016 #95

Brutally bullying her like that will push her to a point where she can not support Sanders. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #98

I'm of two minds on this Rebkeh Feb 2016 #99

I think part of it is that it is on her more personal facebook page KitSileya Feb 2016 #109

There going to throw Bernie himself under... iandhr Feb 2016 #100

Elizabeth Warren is an accomplished legislator. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #102

Swarmed as she should be... datguy_6 Feb 2016 #103

And your point is? ladjf Feb 2016 #110

"ENDORSE BERNIE. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?????" quickesst Feb 2016 #111

About 70% of the direct comments to her last post are like that. KitSileya Feb 2016 #119

Very inappropriate... quickesst Feb 2016 #154

I agree. Even if some refuse to see reality, and think that it's a Rovian Clinton trick KitSileya Feb 2016 #158

Very little difference... quickesst Feb 2016 #170

Judge not lest ye be judged UglyGreed Feb 2016 #115

How to Win Friends and Influence People, by the Bernie Sanders Movement alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #116

You forgot the word "Not." Koinos Feb 2016 #133

Because that's really going to convince her that she should endorse Bernie. tanyev Feb 2016 #117

These efforts will not work Gothmog Feb 2016 #121

More Clinton dirty tricks. I am disgusted by the dishonesty. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #124

I dont understand this jcgoldie Feb 2016 #123

Then you are behaving exactly as intended by Sanders rivals. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #125

behaving? jcgoldie Feb 2016 #144

"Fascist?" Oh for fuck sake. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #157

in the sense that jcgoldie Feb 2016 #166

Okay, I can certainly agree with that. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #169

I'm willing to wait patiently for her to endorse Clinton. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #126

While I never thought Warren would endorse anyone before the nomination was decided, I have no still_one Feb 2016 #128

Now I'm a pretty ardent Sanders supporter, but I think this is ridiculous shawn703 Feb 2016 #134

+1 jcgoldie Feb 2016 #147

Its a know fact that Cryptoad Feb 2016 #135

well the Hillversion isn't much better PatrynXX Feb 2016 #137

And Robert Reich hasn't been happy with the nasty stuff he is getting from Clinton supporters. They Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #138

Warren is going to endorse the actual nominee. Koinos Feb 2016 #140

There is no rule saying she has to endorse anyone. alfredo Feb 2016 #143

Bernie supporters might be better off... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #149

she has every right to endorse whom she wants... chillfactor Feb 2016 #151

Warren has kept her powder extremely dry. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #152

keep it up Robbins Feb 2016 #167

WOW=Going after Warren is not going to work Gothmog Feb 2016 #176

Any Room Left Under That Bus? DarthDem Feb 2016 #177

You might be on to something. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #186

Maybe DarthDem Feb 2016 #189

They had to bring in this bus to throw all the folks underneath it stevenleser Feb 2016 #253

Not me. For the record, I am not part of this "swarm". Hiraeth Feb 2016 #180

Wow. Just...wow. Well, they just gave her a reason to endorse Hillary Clinton. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #181

Good. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #196

She should not endorse snowy owl Feb 2016 #197

I'm a Sanders supporter and I think this is ridiculous BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #199

Yes, that is why I tried to separate these Sanders supporters form people like you in my OP KitSileya Feb 2016 #200

I would not harass superdelegates but think the concept is profoundly undemocratic BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #201

You would have to take that up with Sanders' senior adviser, Tad Devine KitSileya Feb 2016 #205

........... MADem Feb 2016 #211

Bernie might select her as his candidate for Vice-President at the convention. imagine2015 Feb 2016 #217

I would rather see her as Secretary of the Treasury BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #220

Looks like I was taken in by a faked page that said Warren endorsed Sanders. MADem Feb 2016 #221

She didn't endorse anyone. Codeine Feb 2016 #224

Yes, I edited my post above. That was a mean thing to do, to create that faked page MADem Feb 2016 #225

Shitty thing to do. Codeine Feb 2016 #226

We sure agree on that. MADem Feb 2016 #232

Since you insist on calling Bernie supporters the false Berniebros, are you valerief Feb 2016 #239

This message was self-deleted by its author MisterP Feb 2016 #240

Warren got a lot of shit from the other female Senate Demcrats jfern Feb 2016 #242

how dare they Enrique Feb 2016 #251

Guilty!! Hey - I get an email from her almost every day asking for money for her campaign. jillan Feb 2016 #252

But the BB's don't exist!! Number23 Mar 2016 #257

Elizabeth Warren probably made up those posts herself. lovemydog Mar 2016 #262