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2016 Postmortem

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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:15 AM Feb 2016

Making an issue of Bernie Supporters is the Dumbest Fucking Campaign Tactic in History [View all]

And I don't want to hear it's both sides doing it, as that's total bullshit and here's the fuck why.

Since the beginning, Hillary campaign has made an issue of Bernie supporters by labeling them BernieBro's and saying they were sexist bullies. Then it switched to racist bullies when BLM protested Sander's campaign, something he handled with Grace and Dignity, unlike Hillary HERSELF. Again, this was an orchestrated campaign tactic handed down by the campaign to give out to her minions on social networks. It was a generalization that was proven to be false. And no wonder she is doing this. Her 2008 campaign used the PUMAs to do the very same thing and this just another Rovian tactic employed by her REPUBLICAN Campaign Strategist, DAVID BROCK, who is essentially Mark Penn Version 2.0. Remember, this is the same David Brock (R) who attacked Anita Hill when she attempted to bring Clarence Thomas's sexual harassment to light.

And here we are again, with bullshit attempts to demonize Bernie's supporters, again with the most vile and base lies. No wonder, though Hillary has been proven to be a liar in her emails that recently revealed SHE negotiated the Secret Trade Deal with Columbia in 2009 that her then Campaign Manager, Mark Penn failed to negotiate for Bush in 2008 when it came out that he was the one negotiating the trade deal WHILE BEING HILLARY'S Campaign Manager. He was forced to resign from her campaign of course when it came out. Hillary was also forced to denounce the trade deal, only then to betray the trust of the voters when she then negotiated the trade deal herself as Secretary of State.

What is the ultimate result of this tactic? Disenfranchisement of Bernie's supporters. As a supporter myself, I am finding it more and more difficult each day to pull the lever for Hillary if she ends up being the nominee. And I am fully aware of the stakes. But many are not like me and they are bailing on the DNC because of Hillary's tactics. This will be the loss of not only the party, but America and democracy. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS when Hillary takes advice from Republican Operatives.

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Takes advice you say? I think it's far worse than that. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #1
I agree with you, Hillary isn't taking advice BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #22
+1 dchill Feb 2016 #25
If she continue this & steals the primary... Rockyj Feb 2016 #233
I have started making less of an issue with Sanders supporters and started encouraging them. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #2
On DU in 2008 I had Obama supporters tell me LGBT were no longer needed by the Party, we had Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #23
You are very wanted in the party. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #82
I appreciate the history lesson as I missed quite a bit. That is an eye opener. It is a shame those bettyellen Feb 2016 #138
Thanks for exposing the truth of this sickening effort that continues to be pushed. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #166
Right on. You put it well. Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #250
Anyone who gets so butthurt by a candidaates supporters that they change their vote Gore1FL Feb 2016 #36
That's what you are missing as you dismiss demographics. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #80
Bernie isn't dismissing demographics. Gore1FL Feb 2016 #118
what you're missing is deliberate meme-crafting and messaging designed to change the subject Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #204
Clinton lost most of the Left when she flipped us off and bowed before Bush. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #228
We are voting for the candidate not the supporters. kacekwl Feb 2016 #109
People turned off by over-the-top Sanders supporters may think that . . . brush Feb 2016 #162
I would never reject a candidate because of some supporters. Hortensis Feb 2016 #220
What you said just isn't true davidpdx Feb 2016 #230
Tea Partiers reject people for being different from Hortensis Mar 2016 #243
I have voted Democratic my whole life. Up until recently, the Democratic Party AllyCat Mar 2016 #252
I supported Obama and never got a call to fill an appointment. Gore1FL Feb 2016 #223
Well played. Although ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #85
I have no idea what graphic you mean angrychair Feb 2016 #98
"he is not "some old privileged white guy"" NCTraveler Feb 2016 #101
Your sarcasm is insulting angrychair Feb 2016 #110
Yeah, that's the insulting part. lol. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #112
So, instead of using one liners angrychair Feb 2016 #121
I expressed myself pretty well, in my opinion. Very well actually. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #125
So be it angrychair Feb 2016 #126
I understand more than you give me credit for. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #129
So, your chosen candidate angrychair Feb 2016 #130
Your choice is an old priviledged white woman, who is also a neocon corporatist warhawk. peacebird Feb 2016 #227
+1 I've been disgusted by many tactics & targets. The antisemitism is ultra shocking. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #167
NC, never forget Anita Hill. Where were/are all saidsimplesimon Feb 2016 #107
Never Forget!!!!!!! NCTraveler Feb 2016 #108
How did you like Hillary's 'Obama Boys' attacks on Obama supporters? Nothing slightly racist there sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #180
Neither Bernie nor his supporters ever claimed that he was just as oppressed as AA people. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #242
It's their secret plan. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #3
lol Bernie Bros are horrible human being - now vote for meeeee azurnoir Feb 2016 #8
good point. as I suspect Merryland Feb 2016 #15
+1 well put. Mbrow Feb 2016 #44
Also the "I have finally settled on my candidate .." ones also smell funny. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #156
About as funny-smelling as Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #224
.... inside of a flaming paper bag. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #231
She has not and will not earn all those votes yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #27
Uh...I think a lot of pro-Bernie people did that to SC...the whole state, actually. nt kjones Feb 2016 #159
hmm... I cannot chervilant Mar 2016 #256
Yeah. Go with that... SidDithers Feb 2016 #4
Says the #1 person who attacks Bernie supporters. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #6
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #14
Keep your Hawkeye's open there. n/t OKNancy Feb 2016 #53
That would be more effective if it wasn't for your shameful gravedancing gif. Gore1FL Feb 2016 #37
I'm not...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #89
What a shock. BeanMusical Feb 2016 #115
I noticed. Gore1FL Feb 2016 #119
You have my condolences...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #122
For what? Gore1FL Feb 2016 #132
Loss of a longtime DUer? Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #239
A longtime DUer was banned. There is no reason to celebrate for months. Gore1FL Mar 2016 #259
Celebrating a banned troll makes DU suck. nt Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #260
Celebrating the loss of a long-time duer for months does, yes Gore1FL Mar 2016 #261
+1000 stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #164
Well stated. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #5
This has been the Democratic Party strategy for some time. Maedhros Feb 2016 #146
It is troubling el_bryanto Feb 2016 #7
Sadly, it has been like this for a few decades now. I really am still hoping that Bernie will GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #79
She has not been pushed one tiny little millimeter to the left. The idea must really amuse her, djean111 Feb 2016 #91
+1 BeanMusical Feb 2016 #123
Completely agree with this. 2banon Feb 2016 #131
I agree. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #255
Too late, in my case. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #9
That is it forjusticethunders Feb 2016 #161
+1 appalachiablue Feb 2016 #169
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2016 #10
A smear here a smear there UglyGreed Feb 2016 #11
Criticize supporters for me, but not for thee... LanternWaste Feb 2016 #12
I've never see so many thin skinned people in my life NWCorona Feb 2016 #13
Generalizing Bernie supporters as sexist racist bullies goes well beyond thin skin... berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #19
Excuse me if I wasn't clear NWCorona Feb 2016 #24
Sorry, misread what you said. I thought berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #29
It happens from time to time as I need to be more clear when being sarcastic NWCorona Feb 2016 #30
The "sarcasm" smilie is your friend, it's been a lifesaver. snagglepuss Feb 2016 #189
Yup I gotta put that into the mix😀 NWCorona Feb 2016 #190
I tell you what, Hillary's campaign is about skin all right, just not it's thickness. JimDandy Feb 2016 #157
Gee, Jim Dandy, is that a racist comment or am I reading miore into than intended? Nitram Feb 2016 #174
It's all they have pdsimdars Feb 2016 #16
Her history is indefensible, and I'm not talking about the Goldwater days. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #18
There is no democratic party anymore....it's the Clinton party, and I'm done with it. Punkingal Feb 2016 #17
And you would be wrong, but I give you points for effort... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #20
I'm going to Bernie's rally tonight... Rider3 Feb 2016 #21
'Obama Boys' and 'Bernie Bros'. I remember the 'Obama Boys' attack on Obama Supporters too. sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #26
I never heard that one about Obama Boys. That's pretty vile Armstead Feb 2016 #42
Oh yes, the same old attacks on Obama Supporters, intended to imply that HIS supporters were sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #48
Never knew this, thanks for posting on this vile, clumsy & rehashed tactic. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #170
Heh, they are Hillary's secret weapon MaggieD Feb 2016 #28
No I'm sure Hillary's "bernieboyz" will pour it on azurnoir Feb 2016 #30
You mean like 'Obama Boys' were?? Didn't work for her then and isn't working for her now. sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #51
No more than yall get out and vote Cryptoad Feb 2016 #32
What the hell is that about? liberalnarb Feb 2016 #97
Yet when everything we predict turns out to be true, if she wins the nomination A Simple Game Feb 2016 #104
It enables Hillary and he supporters to avoid talking about the issues. jalan48 Feb 2016 #33
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service beerandjesus Feb 2016 #34
oh good grief PatrynXX Feb 2016 #41
"Creative speculation" is the go-to for those who don't like what's being said. pacalo Feb 2016 #213
I would think our semi-pro alert squads also should know the difference between an SOP alert Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #232
And the jury is in.... JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #35
yeah I'm sick of it. It is probably the number one reason PatrynXX Feb 2016 #38
Hillarylytes PeoViejo Feb 2016 #59
I don't care about what Hillary supporters say. stillwaiting Feb 2016 #65
Nailed it. cui bono Feb 2016 #182
I agree. The Democratic Party is blowing it by dismissing so many potential base voters Armstead Feb 2016 #39
The Democratic Party has been remarkably adept... tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #92
Maybe you should follow your candidates lead. iandhr Feb 2016 #40
The OP is NOT referring to the truly abusive minority of Bernie supporters Armstead Feb 2016 #49
No the OP is ranting that it's a conspiracy against Sanders. iandhr Feb 2016 #57
Not a conspiracy -- A fucked up marketing ploy Armstead Feb 2016 #62
The actual GOP playbook is to try to bait the left into turning against Clinton. iandhr Feb 2016 #69
The "left" doesn't need the GOP to see the Clinton/DLC for what they are Armstead Feb 2016 #70
As a progressive Democrat I disagree. iandhr Feb 2016 #81
Great stereotype you're throwing around for a "progressive" Armstead Feb 2016 #94
"And the idea that you can have a revolution when your base of support is white men under 30 is MuseRider Feb 2016 #199
I do indeed. iandhr Feb 2016 #201
In other words - a conspiracy. Nitram Feb 2016 #175
I know it seems cute to dismiss things as a "conspiracy" Armstead Feb 2016 #177
Ha! It's the open strategy of the Clinton campaign... JackRiddler Feb 2016 #212
The OP is conflating several distinct kinds of Sanders' followers Orrex Feb 2016 #140
You're correct to an extent -- but some of that is reactive. It's a two way stret Armstead Feb 2016 #178
WELL YOUR JUST A BIG JERKY JERK!!!!!!1! Orrex Feb 2016 #192
Naw just a big jerk.... Armstead Feb 2016 #205
Again, the problem is.... vi5 Feb 2016 #43
Answer: it's not a campaign tactic... brooklynite Feb 2016 #45
It's not just here at DU, and I'm pretty sure you know that, as you are someone who has *gasped* at berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #47
It's not just here Armstead Feb 2016 #76
It's whole party Robbins Feb 2016 #46
The DNC officials that dare Shadowflash Feb 2016 #127
Absolutely agree. DrBulldog Feb 2016 #50
K&R for exposure. eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #52
K&R amborin Feb 2016 #54
absolutely. it's kind of hilarious. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #55
There there alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #56
Yeah, as you're gonna find out. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #60
Uh huh alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #61
Thank you for providing an example to validate the OP. cui bono Feb 2016 #185
Indeed they do! alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #200
hmm... flippant chervilant Mar 2016 #257
We need a third Party. But, it's been tried before but has never succeeded. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #58
The Whigs would likely disagree. [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2016 #147
I'll make a deal: When BS stops insulting AA voters in the South and his fanatics stop Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #63
That was another false story manufactured by camp Hillary. You know this of course. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #64
I don't follow HRC's camp. I did, however, see this sentiment on DU. We've been discussing at the AA Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #72
See this? PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #100
Race was brought into that discussion by Hillary supporters. Period. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #117
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #120
NOT GOOD ENOUGH BERNIE, May Kickoff OP of racist lies just after he announced. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #172
mccoy, demographics are an essential part of campaigning. Nitram Feb 2016 #176
Insult? When? nc4bo Feb 2016 #78
Here.... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #83
I don't see that as an insult Liberal_Stalwart, I'm sorry. nc4bo Feb 2016 #95
Why is that an insult? cui bono Feb 2016 #186
I'm not sure about that. hughee99 Feb 2016 #66
At least they gave up quickly on that tactic... It was backfiring... berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #68
No thay haven't given up on that tactic...Just become a little subtler Armstead Feb 2016 #74
Yes, when that turd didn't float, the moved to the one in the OP. hughee99 Feb 2016 #207
Have you seen the comparison of the candidates on the issues? What else do they have? Doctor_J Feb 2016 #67
Yes, it's disturbing. The very fact that it came out that SHE negotiated the berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #71
Bernie has said the exact opposite oberliner Feb 2016 #77
(and Hillary says the same thing in reverse) Scalded Nun Feb 2016 #99
There are definitely plenty of areas of agreement between Hillary and Bernie oberliner Feb 2016 #103
Bernie, being the gentleman that he is and knowing he does not want to tear down Hillary cui bono Feb 2016 #193
Bernie is renowned and respected for telling the truth oberliner Feb 2016 #214
No. Hillary said she would compromise on abortion. There was an OP on here about it. cui bono Feb 2016 #216
SOP Old Codger Feb 2016 #73
These deceitful tactics are utterly juvenile; disturbing and embarrassing to witness, Zorra Feb 2016 #75
I'm right behind you. Dem since birth and I'm 63. Congratulations on your hard work & perseverance. jhart3333 Feb 2016 #93
Yeh, it's painful to see how far the Democratic party, which used to be the champion and protector Zorra Feb 2016 #133
I can see Clinton cackling like the wicked witch of the west with her instructions Blue_Adept Feb 2016 #84
No it's not Hillary it's her surrogate David Brock azurnoir Feb 2016 #145
Everything comes from the top. It's all part of her master plan. Blue_Adept Feb 2016 #154
David Brock is at the top of her campaign azurnoir Feb 2016 #160
Kos has a message to Bernie supporters! DownriverDem Feb 2016 #86
Hate that creep whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #128
That was brutal. And BYOOOTIFUL Number23 Mar 2016 #236
What we're seeing is the inevitable split in the party.... raindaddy Feb 2016 #87
Proud to be part of the "lunatic fringe". VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #179
Agreed! raindaddy Feb 2016 #229
They count on short memories Rebkeh Feb 2016 #88
It's our first SJW campaign Prism Feb 2016 #90
It Does Not Matter: She Doesn't Need Us McKim Feb 2016 #96
Precisely. chapdrum Feb 2016 #106
And vice versa. Orsino Feb 2016 #102
Like Repub's, HRC's supporters shut out chapdrum Feb 2016 #105
Yep. The 2008 Hillary campaign did the same thing to Obama supporters. merrily Feb 2016 #111
I'm voting for Sanders in the Primary because I want Mrs. Clinton to heed and hear Sanders. Sunlei Feb 2016 #113
you can bank on the fact Javaman Feb 2016 #114
Another misstep in a string of errors that characterizes Clinton's campaign Android3.14 Feb 2016 #116
Whatever It Takes(tm) arcane1 Feb 2016 #124
BernieBro is nothing more than the creation of the syphilitic minds that FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #134
If Hillary & the Genius DNC Lose the General Election Billsmile Feb 2016 #135
I Couldn't Agree With You More... Those Of Us Who Are ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #136
+1000 n/t Political_Junkie Feb 2016 #222
right there with you ~ hopemountain Mar 2016 #241
I will vote for her only to keep the Republicans out. Duval Feb 2016 #137
This message was self-deleted by its author IHateTheGOP Feb 2016 #142
Very well said karynnj Feb 2016 #139
This message was self-deleted by its author IHateTheGOP Feb 2016 #141
Sorry if the truth hurts, but, even Bernie himself called out these undesirables in his camp Tarc Feb 2016 #143
That's not the truth. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #144
There's too many to repudiate, is the problem Tarc Feb 2016 #148
Complete unsubstatied bullshit and everyone knows it. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #150
Sounds like someone's gettin a little cranky Tarc Feb 2016 #153
I guess the "majority of Democratic primary voters" John Poet Feb 2016 #188
This message was self-deleted by its author IHateTheGOP Feb 2016 #158
Yes Bernie heard about it & dealt with it. Yet I have NEVER once heard Hillary call out her jillan Feb 2016 #155
Because killing the messenger hopefully kills the message felix_numinous Feb 2016 #149
K&R kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #151
Kickin' for the truth! Faux pas Feb 2016 #152
yeah, it's started to push back already--they've been allowed to tear on for so long MisterP Feb 2016 #163
It does often seem as if Bettie Feb 2016 #165
Excuse me, but pot calling the kettle..... Beacool Feb 2016 #168
Speaking for myself....There's hoinest campaigning and then there's the otehr kind Armstead Feb 2016 #181
I think the question should be why are they a minority Cavallo Feb 2016 #184
She's going to be the nominee, but she's losing to Trump in the GE. And despite closeupready Feb 2016 #171
Is it the Clinton campaign or Clinton supporters who use terms like "BerniBros"? Nitram Feb 2016 #173
Yeah well ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #183
Seriously, it is one I have had real life conversations about too. A few people I know made the bettyellen Feb 2016 #191
I know! ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #197
Some can't help themselves UglyGreed Feb 2016 #187
it gives dull witted geezers with sad little lives & low capacity for self-amusement something to do Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #194
They've destroyed their ace in the hole: fear of a republican whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #195
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #196
Definitely recommended. H2O Man Feb 2016 #198
It's not a campaign tactic rock Feb 2016 #202
If it were happening, it would be a bad tactic Progressive dog Feb 2016 #203
Link please. Buzz cook Feb 2016 #206
sure. one_voice Feb 2016 #208
They seem to take for granted RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #209
+infinity jfern Feb 2016 #210
It's very important to alienate the same people that... JackRiddler Feb 2016 #211
This message was self-deleted by its author pacalo Feb 2016 #215
It's mostly psychology. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #217
Alan Grayson Endorses Bernie Sanders gordyfl Feb 2016 #218
The political system is rigged. So is the media. Let's riot. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #219
Cussing and calling people stupid makes you... shenmue Feb 2016 #221
Scary ain't it !!! AikenYankee Feb 2016 #225
i think it's wrong to bash supporters of DesertFlower Feb 2016 #226
There are relationships like this. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #234
Clinton & her supporters ALWAYS scream loudest about the exact things they are most guilty of. mhatrw Mar 2016 #235
She's marginalizing her opponents supporters because in the GE she'd be the best viable option. PoliticalMalcontent Mar 2016 #237
So then Sanders supporters need to stop making themselves an issue, yesterday (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #238
No Pics Bernie Laughing With Trump billhicks76 Mar 2016 #240
It should be a non-issue compared to Hillary's backers.... Cavallo Mar 2016 #244
Are you doing what you condemn, lovemydog Mar 2016 #245
Where have I generalized her supporters racist, sexist bullies? berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #246
No, that's not what I meant. lovemydog Mar 2016 #248
It's been a campaign tactic from the start. berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #249
What's the basis for that opinion? lovemydog Mar 2016 #253
There are layers to their naive idiocy WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #247
No, running an admitted socialist for President is the Dumbest Fucking Campaign Tactic in History Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #251
Well there was houston16revival Mar 2016 #254
K&R nt LiberalElite Mar 2016 #258
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