That's not true for rich people who used to be poor or middle class (Reply #47)

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Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:45 PM

MaggieD (7,393 posts)

47. That's not true for rich people who used to be poor or middle class

And that's a lot of people, because it's possible to move up in this country. If you think it's hard here, it's much harder in the rest of the world.

This idea that some have that anyone who is financially successful just doesn't understand is a myth. The vast majority of financially successful liberals understand it very well.

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Do you know a really rich person? [View all]	togetherforever	Feb 2016	OP
I personally know some CEOs of huge corporations and plenty of filthy rich people	Buzz Clik	Feb 2016	#1
Good lord, how are you not on my Forever Ignored list? nt	valerief	Feb 2016	#3
No idea.	Buzz Clik	Feb 2016	#7
Yup, just plain folk.	sulphurdunn	Feb 2016	#75
Snort!	dchill	Feb 2016	#138
Splains the concept of 'trickle down' n/t	w0nderer	Feb 2016	#148
You sound like a very hateful person.	Purrfessor	Feb 2016	#161
You sound like a very judgemental, credulous and servile kind of person.	sulphurdunn	Feb 2016	#198
My comment to you is not a judgment but an observation.	Purrfessor	Feb 2016	#199
Uh-huh	sulphurdunn	Feb 2016	#200
How much more money and wealth	ultragreen	Feb 2016	#203
Define rich.	Purrfessor	Feb 2016	#207
Money divides	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#214
My problem is the notion that everyone who attains a certain level and of wealth...	Purrfessor	Feb 2016	#226
It's OK to be suspicious	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#230
So by your logic we should be suspicious of all poor people...	Purrfessor	Feb 2016	#237
False analogy	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#239
And Im not defending rich corporatists and their	Purrfessor	Feb 2016	#244
The social group you identify with--ie. the Rich	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#247
I don't identify with any group. Neither am I an apologist for any group.	Purrfessor	Feb 2016	#251
I think we all KNOW what numbers describe the Rich	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#257
What an odd response to your very simple statement.	7962	Feb 2016	#119
Yes, and the Romneys used an ironing board as a dining table while he was in school.	merrily	Feb 2016	#160
+1 LOL!	TIME TO PANIC	Feb 2016	#51
made my day!!!	erlewyne	Feb 2016	#65
Lmao	Kittycat	Feb 2016	#112
It can be interesting to see how far some will go.	merrily	Feb 2016	#154
Comic relief?	Fantastic Anarchist	Feb 2016	#212
Well then Clinton is clearly the candidate for you.	99th_Monkey	Feb 2016	#10
Yeah, I guess you know my friends better than I.	Buzz Clik	Feb 2016	#14
I guess when you're 'part of the club' or useful to them in some way,	99th_Monkey	Feb 2016	#22
My, my. Judge much?	Buzz Clik	Feb 2016	#26
Just taking you at your word. nt	99th_Monkey	Feb 2016	#31
Seems like someone likes the warm glow of the rich	packman	Feb 2016	#69
Lap-dog position and cubby hole. LMAO	PonyUp	Feb 2016	#87
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2016	#126
Friends are people we socialize with. If you have all these rich friends,	Divernan	Feb 2016	#79
I have seen this, and second what you have said	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#216
This is a generalization and may not apply to your friends	creatives4innovation	Feb 2016	#81
Which means pretty much squat	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#71
Like it or not: "Income inequality makes the rich more Scrooge-like".	99th_Monkey	Feb 2016	#89
Mitt Romney gave 30% of his income to charity in one year	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#98
Good for him. Is Mitt one of your heroes ? n/t	99th_Monkey	Feb 2016	#101
Your "science" shows he's one of yours, no?	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#102
He's certainly an exception to the rule, yes.	99th_Monkey	Feb 2016	#103
I suspect most of it went to the Mormon church	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#108
Damn, you're right. I forgot about Mitt's funny underwear. nt	99th_Monkey	Feb 2016	#113
I suspect a lot of that went to the Morman Church	Punx	Feb 2016	#109
Which is pretty much my point	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#110
Well we agree here	Punx	Feb 2016	#121
Wealthy give more dollars: Poor give more proportionally.	newthinking	Feb 2016	#152
Agree, except that	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#218
Agreed, we absolutely need to support the arts too	newthinking	Feb 2016	#248
Totally with you on that	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#249
Mitt Romney is a Mormon. I am familiar with Mormon charities.	JDPriestly	Feb 2016	#125
Did your source say what charities?	Mr.Bill	Feb 2016	#127
The Mormon Church and related organizations, I take it?	merrily	Feb 2016	#162
Nixon paid almost no taxes despite reporting over a million $ in income while he was presidunce	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#163
I am not seeing the connection between that and what I said. As to Romney, however, he	merrily	Feb 2016	#166
Nixon's tax scam involved the donation of significantly overvalued writings	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#172
Ok, I get it now. You hadn't mentioned the overvalued writings initially. Your original point is	merrily	Feb 2016	#173
So in his Benevolence, He gets to choose	Marty McGraw	Feb 2016	#259
We never feel secure. Hence, rich people never feel secure, and never feel that they	JDPriestly	Feb 2016	#118
Yep.	kristopher	Feb 2016	#131
I don't agree that greed comes from rich people not feeling financially secure.	merrily	Feb 2016	#167
Re: expecting special treatment as biggest donors to charity?	Divernan	Feb 2016	#217
That, too. And the society writers feed into it. However, the power, the	merrily	Feb 2016	#255
Yes yes yes!	mainer	Feb 2016	#186
Traditionally one way the poor get the rich to spread the wealth is by kidnapping.	Spitfire of ATJ	Feb 2016	#193
Thank you for the laugh . . . I needed that.	Petrushka	Feb 2016	#204
Sadly this is statistically true	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#215
plenty of filthy rich people	SoLeftIAmRight	Feb 2016	#19
Have you asked those questions of the author of the OP?	Buzz Clik	Feb 2016	#24
There are 3 for me by that definition	SoLeftIAmRight	Feb 2016	#30
Someone who lives in a shanty in Jakarta could make the same equally true statement about you	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#82
here let me help	SoLeftIAmRight	Feb 2016	#85
It would be pretty interesting to find research that can see into someone's character	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#91
+100	Tab	Feb 2016	#129
It's not necessarily a question of "sh*tbaggery" as much as it is an ability or inability to	merrily	Feb 2016	#164
That's not particular to rich vs poor	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#171
Cool story bro	libtodeath	Feb 2016	#44
A place where people from our party defend the 1%	Hydra	Feb 2016	#111
It is sickening.	libtodeath	Feb 2016	#122
Personally, I will criticize members of the 1% who...	Purrfessor	Feb 2016	#165
And a place where people ignore that the global 1% starts at $34K for an individual	Recursion	Feb 2016	#189
Science says the rich tend to be less compassionate...	Akamai	Feb 2016	#105
I find the root of it more interesting	w0nderer	Feb 2016	#151
You say either or, as though it's "either or." Probably be a bit of a combination.	Akamai	Feb 2016	#183
Both	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#219
Do you know second and third generation really rich people? That's where the decadence	JDPriestly	Feb 2016	#117
Good point. Nearly ALL "rich" that i know are all self made, not inherited.	7962	Feb 2016	#130
i agree about the trust fund babies	questionseverything	Feb 2016	#134
the op does not say the rich are bad people	questionseverything	Feb 2016	#133
Thank you for that	togetherforever	Feb 2016	#136
Many doctors have lost memory of before they were wealthy	TNNurse	Feb 2016	#146
Lost memory , I like that	togetherforever	Feb 2016	#149
This guy is pretty nice	TNNurse	Feb 2016	#155
Perfect example	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#243
How many is "plenty"? And what kind of sample is that. Besides it's really beside the point.	rhett o rick	Feb 2016	#139
I call bs.	merrily	Feb 2016	#153
I live in Silicon Valley	elljay	Feb 2016	#206
I bet they make fun of you	ultragreen	Feb 2016	#201
About those filthy rich people:	ultragreen	Feb 2016	#202
True	Albertoo	Feb 2016	#228
They look at us like we're dogs. Useful and loyal but not the same species. nt	valerief	Feb 2016	#2
They demand our loyalty even as they pursue policies that fuck us over. Repeatedly.	stillwaiting	Feb 2016	#12
Exactly,they wonder why we would want another .50 per hour while they worry how to save thousands on	libtodeath	Feb 2016	#45
Not too generous with the doggie treats, either!	merrily	Feb 2016	#168
Who unlocked your chains?	tazkcmo	Feb 2016	#4
I do not hold my opinion based on net worth, I realize lots of people do this,	Thinkingabout	Feb 2016	#5
oh please	grasswire	Feb 2016	#11
I asked the same question...the silence is deafening. Always is with this one.	Punkingal	Feb 2016	#41
I'm curious, too.	davidthegnome	Feb 2016	#61
For Pete's sake...	Punkingal	Feb 2016	#13
I'm also interested in your post.	Old Crow	Feb 2016	#55
I am all ears on this ???	togetherforever	Feb 2016	#66
Please provide an example of bad things Sanders has said about women.	7962	Feb 2016	#124
I am a woman and have never heard these awful these	passiveporcupine	Feb 2016	#180
He knows how people treated as second class citizens feel, right?	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#220
"Lets move away from the 1% just this once folks"	PowerToThePeople	Feb 2016	#6
Math is hard	feathateathn	Feb 2016	#35
expected	PowerToThePeople	Feb 2016	#38
So you're for absolute equality then	feathateathn	Feb 2016	#213
The math is easy	Hydra	Feb 2016	#115
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#222
One branch of my family is very rich	noamnety	Feb 2016	#8
The mafia always look after family	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#221
This message was self-deleted by its author	AZ Progressive	Feb 2016	#253
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2016	#9
More fit than Shillary.	hobbit709	Feb 2016	#16
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2016	#23
Ooh, great nickname	SCantiGOP	Feb 2016	#80
I'll call her what I want.	hobbit709	Feb 2016	#84
I do	tk2kewl	Feb 2016	#15
I conduct surveys for the gummit	Le Taz Hot	Feb 2016	#17
Taking gifts on a government job, eh?	jberryhill	Feb 2016	#33
I confess.	Le Taz Hot	Feb 2016	#42
Homemade tamales are to die for	passiveporcupine	Feb 2016	#181
The ones who have the least more often than not give the most	togetherforever	Feb 2016	#53
See my post 79 re working on the census	Divernan	Feb 2016	#100
I can't see it.	Le Taz Hot	Feb 2016	#106
I've known a few. Some were asses, some were OK, and few were human beings.	hobbit709	Feb 2016	#18
That is exactly what I was going to say.	mainstreetonce	Feb 2016	#144
yes , and all of them are very good people.	stonecutter357	Feb 2016	#20
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2016	#27
Members of the elite parasite class	Mudcat	Feb 2016	#21
What do you mean by "really rich"?	mainer	Feb 2016	#25
The wealthiest was in the top 500	togetherforever	Feb 2016	#32
A bunch of us were going camping one weekend. 1%er showed up with a brand new CAMPER.	Hiraeth	Feb 2016	#28
yes, even at Burning Man	MisterP	Feb 2016	#78
I know one really rich person...	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2016	#29
You describe the RARE exception	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#224
Two different people so I must have been lucky./nt	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2016	#235
I do not know	UglyGreed	Feb 2016	#34
When I was in college I worked concrete construction in the summers.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2016	#43
I hung doors	UglyGreed	Feb 2016	#176
I happen to know a couple	madokie	Feb 2016	#36
Our adult son is good friends with a rich man from a very rich family and it always....	Tikki	Feb 2016	#37
A couple I used to work for....	Punkingal	Feb 2016	#39
I've known a number of very wealthy people	magical thyme	Feb 2016	#40
Yes I do. Great guy, great friend - and very disconnected.	NRaleighLiberal	Feb 2016	#46
That's not true for rich people who used to be poor or middle class	MaggieD	Feb 2016	#47
Have you looked at the upward mobility in the US?	Loudestlib	Feb 2016	#104
Unless you are interacting with some people	zalinda	Feb 2016	#48
Sorry, that's not really true IME	MaggieD	Feb 2016	#49
Most people, rich or poor, don't know you exist	mainer	Feb 2016	#72
If you don't make a conscious effort to be an exception to the rule,	Rebkeh	Feb 2016	#50
I've met a very rich person -- the CEO/Chairman of the mid-sized corporation I work for	Martin Eden	Feb 2016	#52
Yes	ismnotwasm	Feb 2016	#54
I know plenty of really rich people, probably worked in the same industry you did	dorkzilla	Feb 2016	#56
I think it depends on HOW they got their money.	mainer	Feb 2016	#57
Yes, my ex, a millionaire.	narnian60	Feb 2016	#58
Yes I did, and we do not even exist to them any more than a homeless person does.	LiberalArkie	Feb 2016	#59
Seriously?	Snerd	Feb 2016	#60
and Democrats are represented by everyone in this thread!!!	Skittles	Feb 2016	#93
Read The Great Gatsby.	jalan48	Feb 2016	#62
"Hillary was on the Board of Walmart"	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#225
I know quite a few rich people - their personalities vary as much as most other people I know	EffieBlack	Feb 2016	#63
Agree	frazzled	Feb 2016	#70
+1	onenote	Feb 2016	#92
yup Reagan also didn't come from wealth	JI7	Feb 2016	#145
yes, humans do show all stripes	ellennelle	Feb 2016	#150
I'm with you.	PatrickforO	Feb 2016	#64
Someone in my synagogue had 300 million	jg10003	Feb 2016	#67
Only one.	davidthegnome	Feb 2016	#68
I've known Republican and Democratic wealth.	senz	Feb 2016	#73
money's not an amount to them--"I have N so I can buy something that costs M"	MisterP	Feb 2016	#74
i do know some really rich people.	barbtries	Feb 2016	#76
I have never met anyone I knew was super wealthy.	Half-Century Man	Feb 2016	#77
Really nice post. Thanks for sharing.	7wo7rees	Feb 2016	#83
I've been friends, quite by chance with several billionaires.	Nitram	Feb 2016	#86
But because of her ties	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#229
I don't know any. They apparently don't enter my circle often.	Juicy_Bellows	Feb 2016	#88
Like you, before I retired, I worked with some of the richest people in	Cleita	Feb 2016	#90
I know someone worth $50 million, and he's a good person	JohnnyRingo	Feb 2016	#94
My father-in-law became rich and he didn't change at all	PonyUp	Feb 2016	#95
personally know	PatrynXX	Feb 2016	#96
I grew up around rich people	Rebkeh	Feb 2016	#97
yes, OP. Hillary making 1/4 to 1/2 mil a speech does not support the $15 minimum wage everywhere.	greymouse	Feb 2016	#99
define "really rich"	shanti	Feb 2016	#107
Yes. I've known a few.	JDPriestly	Feb 2016	#114
Some of the rich are OK . .	FairWinds	Feb 2016	#116
I didn't say they were all bad people	togetherforever	Feb 2016	#137
Lots of people do. Like Trump said, "I've personally hired tens of thousands	closeupready	Feb 2016	#120
Yeah, I know a few	Tab	Feb 2016	#123
I have worked for celebrity royalty	olddots	Feb 2016	#128
That's exactly what we have done in my family.	malokvale77	Feb 2016	#132
I've heard/read politicians in D.C. say what a bubble they live in.	Lodestar	Feb 2016	#135
Bernie is a charter member of the Washington elite	EffieBlack	Feb 2016	#185
KICK	kgnu_fan	Feb 2016	#140
I don't know exactly how much wealth people had when I met them...	steve2470	Feb 2016	#141
In the 1950's, 60 and 70's it was different. They were leaders. Now, not so much.	Festivito	Feb 2016	#142
I used to know some really rich people....	Spitfire of ATJ	Feb 2016	#143
Oh, those "Upstairs, Downstairs" woes.	valerief	Feb 2016	#156
Clinton and other oligarchs by definition don't relate to the little people.	SciDude	Feb 2016	#147
In answer to your question...no. But if I did...	JustAMaverick	Feb 2016	#157
Yes	ananda	Feb 2016	#158
Bernie fosters inclusion, cooperation and consideration for others.	Dont call me Shirley	Feb 2016	#159
I think this story encapsulates: We were having a discussion about battered women with children.	merrily	Feb 2016	#169
Thats been my experience	zentrum	Feb 2016	#170
I think you may have experienced some selection pressure.	NNadir	Feb 2016	#174
You exaggerate	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#238
Please avoid telling me what I do and do not know.	NNadir	Feb 2016	#254
Any reply to you would be a waste of time	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#258
You're correct this time. I'm not interested in simplistic things or, for people who don't have...	NNadir	Feb 2016	#260
You didn't talk to either my husband or me.	Loki	Feb 2016	#175
Thank you for expressing it very well.	mainer	Feb 2016	#182
I've been close with a number of wealthy AND extremely wealthy people - most of them were the most	blm	Feb 2016	#177
Well she said she...	deathrind	Feb 2016	#178
Many. I grew up with many and live amongst many (not by choice). Hillary is nothing like them.	kerry-is-my-prez	Feb 2016	#179
Yes I worked with rich people and they are no better than I am	kimbutgar	Feb 2016	#184
I don't think it's wealth that launched Hillary into La-La Land	Sen. Walter Sobchak	Feb 2016	#187
Just about everyone I know in the US is in the global 1% by PPP income, so yeah	Recursion	Feb 2016	#188
A word about "the rich" and why they isolate themselves	mainer	Feb 2016	#190
You describe the sickness well	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#236
I consider myself one of them. I'm a Bernie supporter.	mainer	Feb 2016	#240
OK, defend the rich	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#241
You attacked a whole category of people	mainer	Feb 2016	#242
I said	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#246
Just watch that TV show "Undercover Boss"	Curmudgeoness	Feb 2016	#191
This message was self-deleted by its author	Denis 11	Feb 2016	#192
Worst OP I've seen this election season	Chico Man	Feb 2016	#194
You people are really sad!	katmille	Feb 2016	#195
You don't know rich people or the dog eat dog business world	AZ Progressive	Feb 2016	#252
Most of the truly wealthy would commit suicide or have nervous breakdowns if they were	brewens	Feb 2016	#196
well said	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#234
My brother is an insurance adjuster. He had to visit a	LibDemAlways	Feb 2016	#197
I know dozens of rich persons. They may not be wealthy, but they know . . .	Petrushka	Feb 2016	#205
I think that much of that	braddy	Feb 2016	#208
you know them by what they do, how they act.	pdsimdars	Feb 2016	#209
She had to conform to get where she is...	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#232
Yep	loyalsister	Feb 2016	#210
"they don't think of themselves as equals with us"	BainsBane	Feb 2016	#211
As Democrats you'd think we'd all be against prejudice.	LAS14	Feb 2016	#223
Everyone judges	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#231
"that's how intelligent people discuss things."	mainer	Feb 2016	#250
Of course	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#256
Excellent and timely post. nt	ladjf	Feb 2016	#227
Since the beginning (around 2006), Hillary's campaign has been entirely about Hillary	Doctor_J	Feb 2016	#233
A home in Hillary's NY hometown of Chappaqua	UglyGreed	Feb 2016	#245

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