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WI_DEM

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19. He lost big in a big dem year, but he also has won in PA, too, so won't take

Reply to richmwill (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:28 AM

Feb 2012

it at face value just because he lost the last time. Nixon lost California when running for governor and won it when he ran for President in 1968 (and 1972). PA is a culturally conservative state in many ways with a lot of older people set in their ways. While I would say that Obama is favored, if Santorum is the nominee, he shouldn't take it for granted.

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PPP Michigan -- blowout in the works: Obama 54, Rmoney 38. [View all] DCBob Feb 2012 OP

Was Michigan considered a swing state? I know Missouri is, but Michigan? It seems to vote Democratic Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #1

Many analysts lump it in with the swing states although its been solid blue for a long time. DCBob Feb 2012 #3

Some people are actually calling Pennsylvania a "Swing State" in 2012, too. richmwill Feb 2012 #5

Pennsylvania and Michigan were both pretty close in 2000 and 2004. Alexander Feb 2012 #10

He lost big in a big dem year, but he also has won in PA, too, so won't take WI_DEM Feb 2012 #19

It really IS a swing state JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #23

They consider it a swing state similarly to how Pennsylvania is considered one... Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #8

Who would have thought "Let Detroit Fail" could possibly backfire in Michigan? Alexander Feb 2012 #2

That article is killing him. DCBob Feb 2012 #4

you are right, bad enough that he likes firing people, he likes firing cities as well virtualobserver Feb 2012 #11

The Romneys have been failing Detroit for two generations. Crowman1979 Feb 2012 #17

+1 JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #24

Romney doubled down on his "let Detroit fail" sufrommich Feb 2012 #6

MIght be a lot of 24/7 Political Pundits looking for work this summer ... JoePhilly Feb 2012 #7

In the end... Craigtee3030 Feb 2012 #9

The MSM need MI to be a swing state in order to sell their close election narrative. LonePirate Feb 2012 #12

The Tea Party is killing the Republican party, mercymechap Feb 2012 #13

Saving Detroit was a good way to turn Michigan from tossup to our side customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #14

Yes, the President needs to keep pushing his cred for saving the auto industry. DCBob Feb 2012 #16

Republicans, the word you are looking for is, "oops." nt Deep13 Feb 2012 #15

If Romney wanted Detroit to go bankrupt then he would have the same attitude towards any city kemah Feb 2012 #18

if you go deep into the numbers it shows that it is not going to change either grantcart Feb 2012 #20

I think many in the Obama campaign feared Romney might win Michigan in the GE.. DCBob Feb 2012 #22

K&R Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #21