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2016 Postmortem

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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:11 AM Feb 2016

When Hillary Clinton Killed Feminism [View all]

NYT Op-ed
Maureen Dowd
2/13/16

When Hillary Clinton Killed Feminism


WASHINGTON — THE Clinton campaign is shellshocked over the wholesale rejection of Hillary by young women, younger versions of herself who do not relate to her.



Hillary’s coronation was predicated on a conviction that has just gone up in smoke. ....So this time, the Clintons assumed, the women who had deserted Hillary for Barack, in Congress and in the country, owed her. Democrats would want to knock down that second barrier.

Hillary believed that there was an implicit understanding with the sisters of the world that now was the time to come back home and vote for a woman. (The Clintons seem to have conveniently forgotten how outraged they were by identity politics when black leaders deserted them in 2008 to support Obama.)

This attitude intensified the unappetizing solipsistic subtext of her campaign, which is “What is Hillary owed?” It turned out that female voters seem to be looking at Hillary as a candidate rather than as a historical imperative. And she’s coming up drastically short on trustworthiness.

As Olivia Sauer, an 18-year-old college freshman who caucused for Bernie Sanders in Ames, Iowa, told a Times reporter: “It seems like he is at the point in his life when he is really saying what he is thinking. With Hillary, sometimes you get this feeling that all of her sentences are owned by someone.”

Hillary started, both last time and this, from a place of entitlement, as though if she reads her résumé long enough people will surrender. And now she’s even angrier that she has been shown up by someone she considers even less qualified than Obama was when he usurped her place.

....snip....

....What the three older women seemed to miss was that the young women supporting Sanders are living the feminist dream, where gender no longer restricts and defines your choices, where girls grow up knowing they can be anything they want. The aspirations of ’70s feminism are now baked into the culture.


The interesting thing about the spectacle of older women trying to shame younger ones on behalf of Hillary is that Hillary and Bill killed the integrity of institutional feminism back in the ’90s — with the help of Albright and Steinem."


....snip.....


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/14/opinion/sunday/when-hillary-clinton-killed-feminism.html?_r=0


Never underestimate women's intuition, no matter the age.

Bernie Sanders on Women’s Rights
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I have such antipathy toward Dowd that it amounts to a mental block cali Feb 2016 #1
I've always admired her. She's a great role model for women. RiverLover Feb 2016 #3
I don't like her writing style or her pedestrian snark cali Feb 2016 #6
Ok RiverLover Feb 2016 #9
She is a novelty read for me, I don't take her seriously. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #8
So this was wrong & shouldn't be taken seriously? RiverLover Feb 2016 #10
and tomorrow she could write a scathing piece about Bernie, shreading him m-lekktor Feb 2016 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #2
That's covered in her peice linked here in the OP. She nails it. RiverLover Feb 2016 #4
excerpt: Donkees Feb 2016 #11
Added that in to the OP excerpt, Donkees. RiverLover Feb 2016 #12
Whuy, back in my day we reshpected our elderzh, you young whippershnapperzh you! Bucky Feb 2016 #5
You should write an op-ed for the NYT too. RiverLover Feb 2016 #7
You nailed it Hydra Feb 2016 #40
I don't like Maureen Dowd much at all ms liberty Feb 2016 #13
No fan of Mo Do here farleftlib Feb 2016 #15
what you wrote. m-lekktor Feb 2016 #17
Why thank you farleftlib Feb 2016 #20
Its true. Thank you. Excellent points, well said. RiverLover Feb 2016 #31
Dowd nails it re feminist hypocricy re Lewinsky & Anita Hill Divernan Feb 2016 #16
Ah, but it's all about power and wealth with the Clintons. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #21
Yes it is and it shows farleftlib Feb 2016 #23
She hasn't had to do that in decades Divernan Feb 2016 #24
That is a very delicate way to put it indeed. Very delicate. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #46
K&R for truth! Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #18
Maureen Dowd? Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #19
Why would ANY woman relate to her, young OR old? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #22
Is this why people are so upset with her? Her scuffle with Obama, while he prefers DAVID BROOKS? RiverLover Feb 2016 #30
I like this comment about David Brook's rant, which, who-the-hell-can-understand... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #45
Some great comments in NYT on this article Divernan Feb 2016 #25
That's a good one. It IS so uplifting to see finally the media's attempts to 'pigeon hole' people, RiverLover Feb 2016 #28
Thanks for posting this! Merryland Feb 2016 #26
Thank you. Such animosity for Ms Dowd has taken me by surprise. /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #29
MoDo criticized Clintons when criticizing them wasn't cool! Divernan Feb 2016 #34
Thanks for this Divernan. RiverLover Feb 2016 #35
She has done that consistently farleftlib Feb 2016 #36
Lovingly? She doesn't sound like a fan here~ RiverLover Feb 2016 #37
Yes OK farleftlib Feb 2016 #39
... RiverLover Feb 2016 #41
Women are "living the feminist dream"??? procon Feb 2016 #27
I suppose they mean farleftlib Feb 2016 #32
Important info. Its just too bad a Hillary "feminist" put down women, saying they only liked Bernie RiverLover Feb 2016 #33
The same restrictions that fall on one demographic group affects all the others. procon Feb 2016 #38
Eloquently stated. Props. RiverLover Feb 2016 #44
After all the lies Dowd told about Al Gore in 2000 One of the 99 Feb 2016 #42
Good to see we finally have some people giving a shit about feminism. JTFrog Feb 2016 #43
MoDo the 21st century Schlafly. boston bean Feb 2016 #47
Schlafly's an ultraconservative Republican;Dowd ranked an influential liberal Divernan Feb 2016 #48
Faux "Feminists" blamed Bill's sexual victims Divernan Feb 2016 #49
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