2016 Postmortem

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14. It's technically accurate, but practically false.

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The Clinton argument "stripped to its essence".....by a fairly neutral observer. [View all] madfloridian Jan 2016 OP

Kick! FloriTexan Jan 2016 #1

Bout time... oh, and shame on you, Hillary Clinton! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #82

Sorry - We need Bernie in the WH and Elizabeth in the SENTATE Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #86

A comment from NYT article that was very revealing indeed. madfloridian Jan 2016 #2

"Hey, it's going to be O.K." tazkcmo Jan 2016 #26

teachers submit to testing. I had no idea she wanted that. That seals it for me roguevalley Jan 2016 #27

Yes, her relations with Ark teachers not the best. madfloridian Jan 2016 #31

also...praise for charter schools antigop Jan 2016 #36

I'm a strong Bernie zentrum Jan 2016 #67

We MUST vote for her if she wins the promary greiner3 Jan 2016 #101

Why vote Hillary when we can vote for a REAL progressive? Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #83

They show their elitism each time they sit around and talk about how to 'talk to the little people'. sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #43

That statement hit me the same way. madfloridian Jan 2016 #64

They don't talk *to the little people. sarge43 Jan 2016 #84

K&R. The scooter story is dead on. lob1 Jan 2016 #3

wow using adelson's paper as a source dsc Jan 2016 #4

Wow yourself..adelson just bought it. Reviewer not on either side. madfloridian Jan 2016 #7

really tell that to the editor who has already quit dsc Jan 2016 #8

So along that line I must not quote from Natl Geo since Murdoch owns it. madfloridian Jan 2016 #12

yes anyone who slimes Hillary is all good for you dsc Jan 2016 #16

I don't "slime" Hillary. Never have. Read the 1st 2 paragraphs at the link. madfloridian Jan 2016 #18

If Jeff Bezos starts using the post to carry out vendettas then hell yea dsc Jan 2016 #21

Well, you just keep me posted about acceptable sources. madfloridian Jan 2016 #32

Honestly I don't think it is unreasonable to say stay away from sources dsc Jan 2016 #33

BUT that article did NOT slime Hillary. Neither did I. madfloridian Jan 2016 #34

+1,000,000! Right on the money. nt MADem Jan 2016 #39

She just sent Chelsea out to say Bernie's taking away everything we have. madfloridian Jan 2016 #54

Adelson bought the paper and he has his guys in there. MADem Jan 2016 #57

The editor was tossed last month!!!! He wasted no time in (cough) "accepting a buyout." MADem Jan 2016 #49

Did you even read the link in the OP? madfloridian Jan 2016 #51

The point that Adelson bought the paper, and essentially fired the editor (take the money and leave) MADem Jan 2016 #52

Works both ways with both candidates. madfloridian Jan 2016 #53

Where am I "attacking you?" MADem Jan 2016 #55

Then you have not read the link in my OP. You are arguing with me over nothing. madfloridian Jan 2016 #56

I am not "arguing with you." I am simply bringing a link to this conversation that backs up what MADem Jan 2016 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #94

Adelson? You mean the guy Debbie Wasserman Schultz worked with to keep jailing medical pot users? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #10

please find a post where I defended her on pot dsc Jan 2016 #11

Are you Sheldon Adelson? I'm talking about him, not you. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #13

it isn't ok because he has a clear agenda which he brings to his newsroom dsc Jan 2016 #15

So you're done with DWS, then, because she worked with him to put sick pot users in prison. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #17

frankly I had problems with her without knowing she had done that dsc Jan 2016 #20

She's a train wreck. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #38

Notice how you couldn't be beat on the Adelson matter, so the subject got galloped over to DWS? MADem Jan 2016 #41

If Adelson is persona non grata, great. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #80

There's nothing to forgive. nt MADem Jan 2016 #89

She told John Morgan if he quit attacking her, she would not fight his medical pot initiative. madfloridian Jan 2016 #35

I donated to Canova, also! Duval Jan 2016 #98

Do you mean the DNC chair hired by President Barack Obama, our party head? That DNC chair? MADem Jan 2016 #40

Yeah, but he never worked with Sheldon Adelson to put sick people in prison for pot. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #42

Obama has the power to tell her "You're fired." He does not do that. MADem Jan 2016 #48

From where I stand, DeMontague can tell his tale of woe wherever he pleases. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #62

Why yes, he most certainly can. MADem Jan 2016 #63

a couple of bucks? More like four. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #79

I don't go there either. The stuff tastes like battery acid. nt MADem Jan 2016 #90

DeMontague's tale of woe. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #78

Ha ha ha! That's BRILLIANT!!!!! nt MADem Jan 2016 #93

Since she was later elected by the DNC.... madfloridian Jan 2016 #65

She wasn't 'elected by the DNC.' She was appointed chair by the party leader, MADem Jan 2016 #66

Here is the article and her statement about being elected. I'm not sure of facts... madfloridian Jan 2016 #69

She was appointed by Barack Obama. Joe Biden announced it. MADem Jan 2016 #70

Of course he chose her. I know that for a fact. Presidents do that. madfloridian Jan 2016 #71

She likely went through some sort of re-vetting process in 2013. MADem Jan 2016 #72

I'm sure he's thought about it. But, that's not what I'm on about. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #77

Did you ever stop and think that most people don't WANT to defend her on that issue because they do MADem Jan 2016 #91

Intellectually dishonest comment. He just bought the paper. Line of reasoning rejected. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #44

Ummm. no. MADem Jan 2016 #50

Wow, using deception to try to influence readers. Adelson just bought it, unfortunately, and we most sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #46

as I pointed out, in this very thread, which you apparently were too lazy to read dsc Jan 2016 #107

Oh, Godwin..... paleotn Jan 2016 #96

Oh, geez... chervilant Jan 2016 #106

Because the core argument of her campaign is "vote for me because I'm Hillary Clinton" Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #5

she assumed women and youth were hers roguevalley Jan 2016 #30

These voices come from a younger generation sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #6

And some older as well. madfloridian Jan 2016 #37

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #9

It's technically accurate, but practically false. elleng Jan 2016 #14

Perfect wording for the example...made the point well. madfloridian Jan 2016 #75

K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #19

I agree with Steven leser Doctor_J Jan 2016 #22

............ madfloridian Jan 2016 #24

lol n/t tazkcmo Jan 2016 #28

Love the signature line too. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #45

Me too ... sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #47

The oligarchs were hoping for one more Wall St. Democrat before "It's the Republican's turn." jalan48 Jan 2016 #23

I think trump also upset them Locrian Jan 2016 #92

Those voices are not going away. SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #25

I read that after Reagan busted the unions and destroyed manufacturing,... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #29

The Clintons are slow learners. They are stuck in the 90s. Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #100

For those who refuse to read the opening paragraphs which are NOT anti-hillary at all.... madfloridian Jan 2016 #59

K&R. Enough is enough is enough. #DownHill. nt stillwaiting Jan 2016 #60

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #61

Thank you. madfloridian Jan 2016 #74

does anyone seriously believe that HIllary and her campaign correctly represented Sen. Sanders' Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #68

Good points. madfloridian Jan 2016 #73

it's seriously insulting the intelligence of the voters, that they think that's gonna work. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #81

.... madfloridian Jan 2016 #85

Stripping a message down to its essence is difficult when the message is merrily Jan 2016 #76

Kids, Clinton is not now nor has she ever been a Liberal or Progressive` Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #87

I consider all of her top advisors to low life scum FlatBaroque Jan 2016 #88

Excellent, excellent OP, Thank you n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #95

Thanks, Tom. madfloridian Jan 2016 #97

The personal rancor that swirlded around was certainly petty Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #102

"I don't think there was any real awareness among the party leaders, including the Clintons, of the Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #99

They have actually forgotten we're here....they've ignored us so long. madfloridian Jan 2016 #103

Oh boy. Let's try this again. jmowreader Jan 2016 #104

K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #105

I'm Hollering & Screaming Along With This New ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #108