Atheists & Agnostics
In reply to the discussion: Dishonesty and thoughtlessness in believers. [View all]uriel1972
(4,261 posts)after all we don't believe the bible is the word of god. What I think you are seeing is atheists taking believers on their word, that they believe in the bible and calling them on it.
What is being criticised here is the shifting goalposts when an atheists ask them what in the bible they believe to be true. So as to aid in the discussion of their faith and the consequences.
Modernists as you call them are very vague, elusive and shifty when it comes to saying what is actually fact and what is 'metaphor' when it comes to the bible. So it leaves us with great difficulty in discussing their beliefs as what was yesterday solid 'fact' becomes today's 'metaphor'.
It is this part which we call 'intellectually dishonest'. It makes for a very frustrating experience. If they didn't say the bible was true and the word of god, it wouldn't matter. Allthough they might say the bible is 'metaphorically' true and the word of 'god and man' whatever that all means.