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RLBaty

(335 posts)
24. Step by Step! Any Takers?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:48 AM
Nov 2012

Let's try it this way if there is interest!

MAJOR PREMISE:

IF (A) man was able to originate the idea/concept
of God through the power of imagination, as opposed
to reason and/or revelation,

THEN (B) man did originate the idea/concept of God
through the power of imagination.

MINOR PREMISE:

(A) Man was able to originate the idea/concept of
God through the power of imagination, as opposed
to reason and/or revelation.

CONCLUSION:

(B) Man did originate the idea/concept of God
through the power of imagination.


Step #1:

Do you believe the argument is so constructed that if its premises
are true its conclusion will follow as true therefrom (i.e., that
it is logically valid)?

I do.

Step #2:

Do you believe that atheism implies the truth of the conclusion
and that atheists implicitly and/or explicitly believe the
conclusion to be true?

I do.

Step #3:

Do you believe that atheism implies the truth of the minor
premise and that atheists implicitly and/or explicitly believe
the minor premise to be true?

I do.

Step #4:

Do you believe that you can take the minor premise and
conclusion of a logically valid modus ponens argument and
construct the major premise therefrom?

I do.

Step #5:

Do you believe that the major premise of the above argument
is properly inferred and properly constructed from the minor
premise and conclusion of the argument?

I do.

Step #6:

Do you believe that atheism implies that the major premise
is true and that atheists implicitly and/or explicitly believe
the major premise to be true?

I do.

I think I have made my case for my positions regarding these important, simple, fundamental, public issues and I am more than willing to further test my understanding of atheism as popularly promoted.

Thanks for cooperating.

TLDR rrneck Nov 2012 #1
Re: TLDR RLBaty Nov 2012 #2
Get rid of these - > rrneck Nov 2012 #3
I'll second the TL,DR. Warpy Nov 2012 #44
On the run? Really? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #4
Well, you phrased that more kindly than I was about to. OriginalGeek Nov 2012 #5
On the run! Really! RLBaty Nov 2012 #6
Re: On the run! Really! RLBaty Nov 2012 #7
Don't think it matters, but ... FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #8
Re: I don't see where Major (A) ==>(B) RLBaty Nov 2012 #9
I'm say that IF (A) -- which I think is true -- THEN NOT NECESSARILY (B) FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #10
Re: ...IF (A) - - -which I think is true - - -THEN NOT NECESSARILY (B) RLBaty Nov 2012 #11
I might add... RLBaty Nov 2012 #12
With the athiest one uriel1972 Nov 2012 #13
Re: With the atheist one RLBaty Nov 2012 #14
Let's look again FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #15
Re: Let's look again RLBaty Nov 2012 #16
That seems unnecessarily tangled FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #18
Not unnecessarily tangled at all! RLBaty Nov 2012 #19
No. FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #20
Thanks for implicit endoresement of my analysis! RLBaty Nov 2012 #21
A little more trivia: something Vic and I have in common! RLBaty Nov 2012 #17
There may be some athiests who believe such a flawed and simplistic argument uriel1972 Nov 2012 #22
There are some who admit to it; others not so much! RLBaty Nov 2012 #23
Bull dust uriel1972 Nov 2012 #25
I got that! RLBaty Nov 2012 #26
Well and good uriel1972 Nov 2012 #27
I haven't! RLBaty Nov 2012 #28
Not once did I say or even imply that there was no god uriel1972 Nov 2012 #29
Not so! But I enjoy the game you are playing! RLBaty Nov 2012 #30
Post 23 uriel1972 Nov 2012 #31
Post 29! Back at ya! RLBaty Nov 2012 #32
???????? uriel1972 Nov 2012 #33
Uriel1972 already lost and now he's back for more? RLBaty Nov 2012 #35
Step by Step! Any Takers? RLBaty Nov 2012 #24
Alright I'll bite uriel1972 Nov 2012 #34
Nope! You failed again! RLBaty Nov 2012 #36
I'm sorry if reality is failing to adhere to your perceptions uriel1972 Nov 2012 #37
Uriel1972 - another failing demonstration, but much appreciated! RLBaty Nov 2012 #38
Well, one more gift, no extra cost, before I retire for the night! RLBaty Nov 2012 #39
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #40
Like I said before... RLBaty Nov 2012 #41
Atheism 101 - Special Class for DU Students! RLBaty Nov 2012 #42
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #43
Locking - take your ball and go back to your sandbox EvolveOrConvolve Nov 2012 #45
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