Religion
In reply to the discussion: Please note: [View all]MellowDem
(5,018 posts)And the official creeds of the beliefs are filled with indoctrination. Heck, they often require the parent to vow to indoctrinate in baptismal ceremonies. For the believers that don't indoctrinate, good, but they're a tiny minority.
Jesuits do not epitomize skeptical inquiry at all. Apologetics and poor logic is not skepticism. Do you know that a Jesuit is Pope right now, and that he's a misogynist and considers efforts to legalize gay marriage the work of the devil? Wow, real skeptic there. He believes in the freakin' devil, and THIS is the epitome of skepticism? Really? You want to back that up?
I find it insulting in the face of all the evidence that you can honestly claim data doesn't show that indoctrination and cultural coercion is the primary way religion is spread. Why is it that the vast majority of Christians born to Christian parents and raised Christian remain Christian? Or Islam, or most any religion. You ignore this fact like the plague.
Why is Iran nearly 99 percent Muslim? Surely not everyone over there is engaging in critical enquiry as an adult and all coming to the same conclusion.... Or do you believe they are?
People's beliefs do impact me in the real world. Did you know religious beliefs are the main reason people oppose choice in abortion in my state? Or gay marriage? Your feigned ignorance is insulting once again. In my state, people's religious beliefs impact what is taught in fucking public school. Are you honestly that staggeringly naive? Many religious people have dangerous, stupid as shit beliefs, and they make up majorities in parts of this nation and around the world. Are you becoming aware of this just now? Do you know where a lot of misogyny comes from and continues to be supported? Yes, religion impacts the world, and has huge impacts even on those who don't believe. THAT is why I make a huge deal out of it. Just like I do ANY belief, political, religious, etc.
And drop your straw men bullshit. I never said that believers are sick and lying etc. etc. Do you have any sort of relevant point or argument? Or more straw men to attack and more points to avoid?