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Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:28 PM Nov 2012

Churches offering concealed-carry weapons training to attract members [View all]

Note cross posted from the Gun Control & RKBA (Group) as suggested by rrneck.


WHAT WOULD JESUS SHOOT?

Churches offering concealed-carry weapons training to attract members


By Justin Rocket Silverman Sunday, November 25, 2012



MARENGO, Ohio — Salvation isn’t automatic — but it might be semiautomatic.

In an effort to increase membership, a number of U.S. churches — including the Church of Christ congregation in this rural village 30 miles north of Columbus — are offering an unconventional public service: Concealed weapons training.

“Church has done a good job with coffee klatsches or whatever, but we haven’t really reached out to guys,” said Jeff Copley, a preacher at the church. “And guys in Morrow Country, they shoot and they hunt.”

Hundreds of students have enrolled in the 10-hour course, which meets the state requirements for earning a concealed weapons permit. The training includes two hours on a church member’s private shooting range.

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The Marengo church launched its program several years ago and was likely among the first in the country to offer concealed weapons training. But from Texas to North Carolina, a smattering of congregations have recently followed suit, as ministers seek to capitalize on local enthusiasm for gun culture and demand for carry permit classes to expand their flocks.
http://www.thedaily.com/article/2012/11/11/news-concealed-carry-church/


Many people disagree with allowing concealed carry inside a church and some states do not allow it. I rarely go to church (usually for weddings, etc.) but when I do, I legally carry. I see no major problems with those who faithfully follow any religion owning firearms for self defense and even legally carrying them in public.

Still I am sure that many will disagree with my opinion and feel it would be an interesting topic for discussion in this group.



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I have suspected this for some time. "Fellowship" encompasses whatever you want it to. nt patrice Nov 2012 #1
Jesus was NOT in favor of using weapons. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #2
Nobody ever accused me of being a bible scholar but rrneck Nov 2012 #4
I said using. He never said anything about being armed. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #8
Did he think it would be used for a door stop? rrneck Nov 2012 #13
Jesus was not for using weapons. Read the Holy Gospels! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #17
And I think it's always wrong to kill, every time no matter why. rrneck Nov 2012 #20
I you feel the need to arm I will not challenge that! Be careful my friend! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #23
I dont carry a gun. rrneck Nov 2012 #26
When the revolution comes you will protect me! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #28
I appreciate your confidence but rrneck Nov 2012 #32
Bull!!! You are goin to be with me in the revolution hrmjustin Nov 2012 #33
Will there be cookies? nt rrneck Nov 2012 #40
I would say that to kill an attacker in legitimate self defense is justified. ... spin Nov 2012 #31
To my mind legal and right are two different things. rrneck Nov 2012 #39
Like you I have absolutely no desire to ever have to kill another person ... spin Nov 2012 #41
I used to be a helluva salesman. rrneck Nov 2012 #44
IT'S A SWORD! tblue Nov 2012 #51
You apparently. rrneck Nov 2012 #52
But a careful reading of that passage Vietnameravet Nov 2012 #12
That might be debatable. ... spin Nov 2012 #6
Jesus was said nothing about being armed, but he was not for using them. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #10
I will politely suggest that he was not for the misuse of weapons. ... spin Nov 2012 #21
Ah read the gospels! he did not like violence. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #22
When WC Fields was caught reading the bible, safeinOhio Nov 2012 #29
lol my friend! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #35
I will agree that Jesus was opposed to unnecessary violence. ... spin Nov 2012 #36
God bless you Spin!!!! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #37
May God bless you also. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #42
they pander to fear and ignorance Skittles Nov 2012 #3
Is the legitimate use of a weapon to defend yourself, your family or another innocent individual ... spin Nov 2012 #14
omg Skittles Nov 2012 #18
Thanks. I totally agree. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #27
Just think how many people they could bring through the doors with BDSM classes! struggle4progress Nov 2012 #5
I wonder if there is any cultural phenomena rrneck Nov 2012 #7
I apologize for dropping the dime on you. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #15
No worries dawg! I laughed my ass off. rrneck Nov 2012 #19
You make a damn good point. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #25
Concealed what? Bibles? TheCowsCameHome Nov 2012 #9
Ya you never know when you might need a gun or a hand grenade at church!! Vietnameravet Nov 2012 #11
A legal firearm in church may make sense as it is a defensive weapon. spin Nov 2012 #30
Well you never know.. Vietnameravet Nov 2012 #49
zombies? Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #58
I find this to be an interesting paraodox. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #16
Some Christians have a negative view of medicine. ... spin Nov 2012 #24
So what is the point then? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #46
The God I believe in can become a handy crutch in times of need. ... spin Nov 2012 #48
If more believers held the same POV as you, the world woul be a much better place. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #53
Thanks for your support. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #55
But doesn't is say "thou shalt no kill"? Vietnameravet Nov 2012 #50
Unfortunately "Thou shalt not kill" is a mistranslation. ... spin Nov 2012 #54
Oh lord won't ya buy me...... left on green only Nov 2012 #34
Guns and religion. A natural match. Iggo Nov 2012 #38
Clinging to guns and religion. Moses2SandyKoufax Nov 2012 #43
Off topic. Iggo Nov 2012 #47
Luke 22:49-51 rug Nov 2012 #45
For postgraduate credit, see the movie "Five Card Stud" and pay special attention to dimbear Nov 2012 #56
And the one in Texas is justifying this using racism. cbayer Nov 2012 #57
just giving people one more reason not to go to church Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #59
Their website is a trip struggle4progress Nov 2012 #60
From the Remnant Sons website: struggle4progress Nov 2012 #61
Oh boy. That is some scary stuff. cbayer Nov 2012 #62
If they aren't raptured, they'll be able to treat The Rapture like a big fun skeet shoot! struggle4progress Nov 2012 #63
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