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18. Thoughtful, thorough and informative, as usual.

Reply to Jim__ (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:04 PM

Aug 2012

Thanks for the link.

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Have It Your Way [View all] rug Aug 2012 OP

If you believe free will exists, then prove it. trotsky Aug 2012 #1

Do you believe what Harris wrote? rug Aug 2012 #2

I see no evidence that free will, as commonly understood, exists. trotsky Aug 2012 #3

I see choices, large and small, made billions of times a day by billions of people. rug Aug 2012 #4

You see choices being made. So do I. No dispute there. trotsky Aug 2012 #5

If you see a choice, you see free will. rug Aug 2012 #6

Do other animals have free will, or only humans, rug? trotsky Aug 2012 #7

Observing my cat, I infer choice. Limited choice, but choice nonetheless. rug Aug 2012 #8

That doesn't answer my question. trotsky Aug 2012 #9

It does, given the indefiniteness of the question. rug Aug 2012 #10

I learned to fling ad homs from the best, rug. trotsky Aug 2012 #11

You haven't learned very well. rug Aug 2012 #12

Thanks again for the lovely behavior, rug. trotsky Aug 2012 #13

No. Jim__ Aug 2012 #14

Thoughtful, thorough and informative, as usual. rug Aug 2012 #18

Nope. rrneck Aug 2012 #15

Very freudian conceptually and I do agree that free will is often an illusion. cbayer Aug 2012 #16

I suppose Sammy's view is that he wrote the book because elementary physical laws struggle4progress Aug 2012 #17

Hedges was not talking about the area in which Harris has a Ph.D. Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #20

Over various years I took several neuro-chemistry and neuro-anatomy courses, struggle4progress Aug 2012 #22

No it is more that the choices we make are not conciouslly made, Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #32

It is clearly true that we do not control everything about ourselves: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #34

Well the problem is that currently attempts to measure what we consciously control Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #40

Free will debates: Simple experiments are not so simple struggle4progress Aug 2012 #41

Harris has a Ph.D. in neuroscience, for god's sake. Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #19

Dr. Bjorn Brembs (PhD) is a neurobiologist. Jim__ Aug 2012 #24

How does that go . . . appeal to authority? rug Aug 2012 #28

It's not a logical fallacy skepticscott Aug 2012 #31

... Given his other books, one would expect science to drive Harris’s conclusions, but here struggle4progress Aug 2012 #35

OK, let's walk through it Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #36

Wait, wait, wait! If we are going to do the negative Socratic dialectic thingie, I think that struggle4progress Aug 2012 #37

So when you can't use your Google-fu, you won't play Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #38

If there is no such a thing as free will, then what sense can I possibly make struggle4progress Aug 2012 #39

So you aren't gong to answer the question. Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #42

Anyone else believe this? AlbertCat Aug 2012 #21

We’re all schizophrenics now struggle4progress Aug 2012 #23

How free is the will? Sam Harris misses his mark struggle4progress Aug 2012 #25

LOL trotsky Aug 2012 #33

The cold, cramped, atheistic world of Sam Harris struggle4progress Aug 2012 #26

Will This Post Make Sam Harris Change His Mind About Free Will? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #27

Calvin meet Harris, er, Hobbes. rug Aug 2012 #29

Maybe it's only fate if it happens to somebody else? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #30