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trotsky

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Thu Oct 27, 2016, 10:40 AM Oct 2016

Religious people find it harder to understand the world – study [View all]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/10/26/religious-people-find-it-harder-to-understand-the-world--study/

...Researchers from the University of Helsinki surveyed 258 people about their beliefs, and whether they thought "there exists an all-powerful, all-knowing, loving God."

Respondents were also asked to complete tasks including matching rotated images together, and solving mechanical and physics-based problems.

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Researchers claim their results show that supernatural beliefs correlated with “low systemizing, poor intuitive physics skills, poor mechanical ability, poor mental rotation, low school grades in mathematics and physics, poor common knowledge about physical and biological phenomena, intuitive and analytical thinking styles, and in particular, with assigning mentality to non-mental phenomena.”

Study authors Marjaana Lindeman and Annika Svedholm-Häkkinen suggest that, when people don’t understand the physical world, they tend to apply human characteristics to the wider universe, “resulting in belief in demons, gods, and other supernatural phenomena”.
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Rather than link to a sensationalist right-wing rag, you coukld link to the study. rug Oct 2016 #1
Number One: have an agenda guillaumeb Oct 2016 #15
The Telegraph is, of course, a generally pro-religion paper, being right wing muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #36
And these conclusions, or tentative conclusions, guillaumeb Oct 2016 #42
The report is behind a firewall muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #49
I think that looking only at a selected portion of a report can lead to conclusions guillaumeb Oct 2016 #50
That's why the extra quotes from the authors are quite useful muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #52
But this comment does not tell us if the two groups compared were of guillaumeb Oct 2016 #55
Early man concocted superstitious tales to explain the natural phenomenon in their world. procon Oct 2016 #2
This post goes a long way in undermining the premise and the purpose of the OP. rug Oct 2016 #3
rug, the number of studies is legion which saltpoint Oct 2016 #4
That report is needed in another thread. rug Oct 2016 #5
The connection is overwhelmingly present saltpoint Oct 2016 #6
The only thing present is correlation not causation. rug Oct 2016 #8
I do not take serious intellect as saltpoint Oct 2016 #11
We clearly have different opinions as to what constitutes "serious intellect". rug Oct 2016 #12
Cheap shot, rug. Address the points and saltpoint Oct 2016 #29
But that's what he does! cleanhippie Oct 2016 #34
And this is what you do! rug Oct 2016 #44
That's your phrase. Pardon me if I think it's woefully inapt. rug Oct 2016 #43
LOL! stone space Oct 2016 #21
Maybe stick to the points raised without saltpoint Oct 2016 #28
The point was raised by you. stone space Oct 2016 #61
Odd to say, laughter was not allowed in all saltpoint Oct 2016 #64
What does this have to do with laughter not being allowed at DU? stone space Oct 2016 #70
If you try really hard to connect the dots, saltpoint Oct 2016 #71
You're new here. I've been here long enough to actually know where some of the dots are. stone space Oct 2016 #75
Thanks Saltpoint! More is welcome! Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #9
Hey Brettongarcia. I'm just one more flunkie saltpoint Oct 2016 #10
The topic comes up more like every two or three months, with the same result - failure. rug Oct 2016 #13
Do you support the RCC's stance on exorcism? Fix The Stupid Oct 2016 #19
State what you think is the RCC's stance on exorcism. rug Oct 2016 #46
These are scientific findings Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #23
If you're going to appeal to authority, the least you can do is cite five of them. rug Oct 2016 #47
The folks conducting these studies are science-types. saltpoint Oct 2016 #26
Scientifically, it is interesting. Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #38
Very good points. There is a history of saltpoint Oct 2016 #40
It won't be the first, or last time, anyone has pounced on part of one legitimate study rug Oct 2016 #48
rug, you slammed that paper going in, but saltpoint Oct 2016 #51
No, I haven't. rug Oct 2016 #53
I can see you're upset. Unfortunately, saltpoint Oct 2016 #54
You must have either extraordinary eyesight or quivering antennae. rug Oct 2016 #56
I cited one. You can read it if you wish. saltpoint Oct 2016 #57
I will read it. Thank you. rug Oct 2016 #58
You might adhere to the points raised, rug. saltpoint Oct 2016 #59
Here, read this. rug Oct 2016 #60
You are mistaken to assume anyone saltpoint Oct 2016 #62
So, arguendo, what do you say is the cause of religious people being demonstrably more stupid? rug Oct 2016 #63
More stupid? Did you just order that in saltpoint Oct 2016 #65
Ah, so you agree they're not. Now read the title of the OP. rug Oct 2016 #66
I don't think we're agreeing on anything saltpoint Oct 2016 #67
To coin a phrase, "I can see you're upset." rug Oct 2016 #68
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #69
Ah, but I don't. rug Oct 2016 #72
Religion killed people who opposed it, for centuries Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #81
States killed people who opposed it, for centuries. rug Oct 2016 #82
Both. But that still makes religion one of two major factors Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #83
If you're talking about censorship, read why the First Amendment was necessary. rug Oct 2016 #84
Both. Religion and state united in theocracies. Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #85
Are you referring to this OP? stone space Oct 2016 #74
But if this study deals with: guillaumeb Oct 2016 #14
A rare study might draw such a clinical conclusion saltpoint Oct 2016 #27
And is the definition of religious delusions also specified by the authors? guillaumeb Oct 2016 #32
It is, but that is what any study can do. Again, saltpoint Oct 2016 #33
This guy put it pretty well: trotsky Oct 2016 #7
Dawkins engages in classic straw man argumentation. And he does it well, guillaumeb Oct 2016 #16
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #17
Easily rebutted by the existence of many scientists who are people of faith. guillaumeb Oct 2016 #18
Religion can teach people to be satisfied with not understanding the world. trotsky Oct 2016 #20
Now I agree with you. Why? guillaumeb Oct 2016 #22
No, Dawkins's quote still stands. Good try, though. trotsky Oct 2016 #24
Backtracking from what you said? Why? guillaumeb Oct 2016 #30
Ken Hamm Cartoonist Oct 2016 #35
Georges LeMaitre guillaumeb Oct 2016 #39
Many studies show faith declines in physics departments, Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #25
"3 extra IQ points"? Really? Well that certainly shows something..............to you. guillaumeb Oct 2016 #31
So how do scientists deal with conflict between science and religion? Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #37
I believe, and I have also read, that faith deals with the spiritual. guillaumeb Oct 2016 #41
Spirituality is how moderns gave up the Bible, 3/4 Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #77
Are you familiar with the terms parable, and metaphor, and archetype? guillaumeb Oct 2016 #88
I wrote my PhD dissertation on some of these subjects Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #92
Then being familiar with these terms, as I assumed you were, and not arguing the point that guillaumeb Oct 2016 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #79
Rebutted by religious censorship? Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #80
Are you asking me why another poster self-deleted a statement? guillaumeb Oct 2016 #89
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #93
Thank you for clarifying. guillaumeb Oct 2016 #96
Not necessarily rebutted. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2016 #86
I would agree with your argument. guillaumeb Oct 2016 #90
I don't know that they're saying the relationship is causal. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2016 #91
An excellent answer. eom guillaumeb Oct 2016 #94
Remember this is in Finland muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #97
I think that is an insightful point of view. Trust in God does let us coast. The Wielding Truth Oct 2016 #76
Check out the last paragraph. LOL! stone space Oct 2016 #45
Religious people are worse at math, researchers claim struggle4progress Oct 2016 #73
It's easy to measure physical incapacity Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #78
Answers stone space Oct 2016 #87
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