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In reply to the discussion: Did historical Jesus really exist? The evidence just doesn’t add up. [View all]elleng
(132,003 posts)112. Yes, as historians.
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Did historical Jesus really exist? The evidence just doesn’t add up. [View all]
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
OP
In fairness to Justin and those like him, he must go on record here or anywhere
NoJusticeNoPeace
Dec 2014
#52
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. And, they who resort to ad homina have lost.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#75
I don't take any religious texts at face value, as gospel truths (couldn't resist).
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#231
Why would I think that? Odd how people in the A-A group say "I'm not one of them".
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#238
Scientific " faith"is not the same word as used in religious faith, you are confusing yourself.
Fred Sanders
Dec 2014
#254
I don't believe that history according to Dan Brown has any professional support.
okasha
Dec 2014
#242
Oddly enough most who believe Jesus did exist aren't scholars either.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#235
Rationally, the burden of proof lies with the people who claim he DID exist.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#13
Well, he is convincing me he has nothing convincing to give me. Faith, of course, can not be proven.
Fred Sanders
Dec 2014
#255
But you do engage with a 'they' that do not accept that premise, and whom
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#33
Only one side *requires* proof. The side making an extraordinary claim.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#117
How many specific, individual people from 1st century Palestine could be "proven"...
YoungDemCA
Dec 2014
#91
That is not what I asked and I am not responsible in anyway shape ot form by the litany you just
hrmjustin
Dec 2014
#17
Let me put it another way, because that last paragraph I just wrote is probably difficult to parse.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#168
Why are you trying to bait me? i did not alert on your post nor am I going to.
hrmjustin
Dec 2014
#164
They are jealous of the atheist lack of faith and belief only in science and facts that can be
Fred Sanders
Dec 2014
#257
Yes. Not having to think about the many versions of Hell is a relief they do not have.
Fred Sanders
Dec 2014
#259
If by chance someone who read it is an idiot they can ask for an explaination.
Leontius
Dec 2014
#267
Well you have the right to take it how you want but I never meant all of you.
hrmjustin
Dec 2014
#134
Well gosh there is plenty of evidence for all sorts of actual human beings.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#35
The Romans executed many tens of thousands of criminals and politically dangerous folk.
thucythucy
Dec 2014
#211
If, 2000 years from now, a large portion of the planets worships me as a god
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
#214
harry potter has 7 books about him, therefore he is 7X more likely to be real nt
msongs
Dec 2014
#34
Every work of history written by eyewitnesses or not is biased so there is no
Leontius
Dec 2014
#240
"No, they did not find Hector or Helen" - nobody is questioning that Jerusalem exists.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#62
I don't believe he earned a legitimate PhD. Maybe it's an honorary PhD from www.bullshit.net
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#93
Are you saying that WaPo published an article with a fake author holding fake credentials?
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
#94
Yes. That's a yes. Phony and shit for brains dude has a page at University of G'Day!
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#113
From what I see (links provided in previous post) his PhD paper is there for you to read.
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
#140
The vast majority of reputed historians and scholars from related disciplines disagree
YoungDemCA
Dec 2014
#77
Thanks for the links. I hadn't seen that. Great, objective writing from a real academic.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#167
I'm not familiar with the post you are talking about, so I cannot comment on that.
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
#92
I know, right? Next month: Did Historical Buddha Really Exist?". Professional Whacks say "Derp".
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#131
=:-) Your characterization of my claims is wrong. I didn't say he wasn't a real author.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#151
You poor thing! I looked at each link. No mention of his "PhD". So he's an author. Duh.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#163
I just realized that all this hubabaloo is due to your abject failure at reading comprehension.
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
#185
The OP is legit, even if the author of the article doesn't hold a PhD but others insist he does.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#182
The only one ever insisting that he was a fake one was you. Look at your response to rug
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
#187
His personal website says he's a PhD researcher. That is a lie, and he is a liar wannabe.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#188
Jesus is not God. Like Mohammed and Buddha, Jesus was a historic mortal human being.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#189
The other two dudes never claim to be the Son of God, or divine, only one is literally God.
Fred Sanders
Dec 2014
#262
Discussing whether the basis for the largest religion in the world is real
Goblinmonger
Dec 2014
#200
Wait - If Jesus didn't exist, then who spoke the words in red in the Bible?
yellowcanine
Dec 2014
#229
I'm an agnostic, but I believe that some person named Yeshua probably existed.
Xithras
Dec 2014
#251