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stone space

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Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:24 PM Dec 2014

Anti-Christian / Anti-Gay Terrorists Issue Death Threats to Kansas Minister. [View all]

Kansas minister who performs same-sex weddings reports daily death threats

The Wichita Eagle 12/05/2014 7:08 AM | Updated: 12/05/2014 11:43 AM



A Wichita minister says she has received death threats for performing same-sex weddings after the state’s ban on same-sex marriage was struck down by a federal judge last month.

The Rev. Jackie Carter, pastor of the First Metropolitan Community Church, said the church has been getting at least one phone call a day threatening to kill her or to perform acts of violence against her congregation.

The church belongs to a denomination that embraces the gay and lesbian community.

Carter said that she had received threats before the ruling, but they have escalated since she performed a wedding ceremony for 15 same-sex couples on the steps of the Sedgwick County Courthouse on Nov. 17.

“Monday was probably the most scary time for me,” Carter said. “The phone rang and I went to answer the phone and it was just somebody heavy breathing on it. Then somebody rang the door bell and then somebody started throwing rocks at the windows.”

Some callers tell her “to repent so I don’t have to suffer inhumane death at the hands of Satan.” Others have threatened specific acts of violence. Before the group wedding ceremony last month, two callers threatened to chop off her head and put it on a stake.

“Honestly, I’m beginning to get more scared every day that this goes on,” she said. “I’ve kind of talked myself into trying to be more calm about it and realizing that there are more people out there that are supporting us than threatening harm to us.”

She said the church has instructed people to leave the building in pairs, especially at night, for safety. Carter said that she has reported some of the threats to the Wichita Police, but that the department’s ability to investigate is limited because the callers have been anonymous and no number shows up on the church’s caller ID.

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Carter said that she and the Metropolitan Community Church, a denomination with 300 churches worldwide, believes that Christ’s message is to embrace groups not accepted by all of society, such as the LGBT community. She said she was turning to her faith as a way to cope with the threats.

“My faith informs me that this is exactly the message that Christ came to bring, that we were to include all people. And look what the world did when they heard that message to the bringer of the message?” Carter said. “I don’t think we’re called to suffer, but I do believe if we bring the actual message of Christ we will anger people who don’t want to include all people.”

http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article4291320.html

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I hope they find them and arrest them. cbayer Dec 2014 #1
"She said the church has instructed people to leave the building in pairs, especially at night" rug Dec 2014 #2
Why'd ya change the headline? Heddi Dec 2014 #3
I didn't change the headline. stone space Dec 2014 #4
Being told to repent Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #5
Probably because okasha Dec 2014 #8
Who are those who "normally have a fit"? rug Dec 2014 #30
This is a good look at some of it Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #33
I see. You consider that "a fit". rug Dec 2014 #34
On many occassions Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #37
I don't do meta, gm. rug Dec 2014 #39
Nobody's mewling Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #41
Of course not. rug Dec 2014 #44
Making Death Threats against Christian Ministers... stone space Dec 2014 #6
horseshit. Christians have a long and glorious history of murdering each other over doctrinal Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #56
Could you perhaps provide a list of actions which would make one an "anti-Christian"? trotsky Dec 2014 #88
We are a thread about a minister... stone space Dec 2014 #92
I would like a list, please. trotsky Dec 2014 #94
The OP would be #1 on my list. stone space Dec 2014 #95
No, I would seriously like to know. trotsky Dec 2014 #100
She's a Christian minister. stone space Dec 2014 #104
ferchristsake. Christianity under attack? edhopper Dec 2014 #109
I'm calling bullshit on this. stone space Dec 2014 #111
You really think I was being that literal? edhopper Dec 2014 #117
I'd be happy to compare and contrast... stone space Dec 2014 #121
I'll try this one more time edhopper Dec 2014 #123
This story isn't imagined. stone space Dec 2014 #124
Do you really not understand that sentence? edhopper Dec 2014 #132
Considering that I'm one of the two only posters before you, go on and prove it. rug Dec 2014 #25
You might want to edit your OP Rob H. Dec 2014 #7
I'll just let the response to Muriel Volestrangler's post (where the headline was altered) Heddi Dec 2014 #9
Why are you hijacking this thread? stone space Dec 2014 #10
why did you post a misleading headline? Lordquinton Dec 2014 #11
The headline wasn't written by me. stone space Dec 2014 #15
Maybe I missed it. Is there a place in the rules Heddi Dec 2014 #12
Open your heart, Heddi. stone space Dec 2014 #18
Maybe she thinks they're not actually Christian or not actually gay. rug Dec 2014 #23
I've actually heard people say that one can't be both. stone space Dec 2014 #24
And for different reasons I expect. rug Dec 2014 #26
Yup. Less now than before, though. stone space Dec 2014 #40
You really think that's what she's saying? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #29
I really don't think too deeply about what she's saying. Nor do I care. rug Dec 2014 #32
They are Christian and gay. And it is horrible what is being done to them. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #35
Since when does "anti-Christian" equal "atheist?" okasha Dec 2014 #49
on the internets, Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #13
. stone space Dec 2014 #16
add "soliciting" to a growing list Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #19
Look, until you promise never... stone space Dec 2014 #20
How about this? Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #21
No equivocation. No if's and no unless's. stone space Dec 2014 #22
Well, I will continue to exercise my internet given rights Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #27
Ive never had such a disussion with you, and... stone space Dec 2014 #45
Yeah you did. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #47
I stated my unwillingness to to be pushed in the closet. stone space Dec 2014 #54
I've told you that that is the only point at which it would be an issue. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #55
How would that promise have helped before? stone space Dec 2014 #57
It would have helped because that is the only time I have used it Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #58
You are using it to claim that... stone space Dec 2014 #59
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #50
My guess would be "karma". Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #14
Karma? Seriously? What did this minister ever do to you? stone space Dec 2014 #17
You'll find the Kewl Kidz Krew at 11, 13 and 14. rug Dec 2014 #28
I was in at #5 Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #31
My apologies. I'll move you up on the tote board. rug Dec 2014 #36
Thank you Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #38
You're welcome. rug Dec 2014 #42
From someone who trolls A/A Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #43
Do you consider reading A&A trolling? rug Dec 2014 #46
You clearly alert troll. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #48
Do you consider alerts trolling? rug Dec 2014 #51
Like we have a shitload of locked threads in A/A Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #52
You locked it within 15 minutes of the alert. rug Dec 2014 #53
Isn't it amazing seeing the double standard on display? trotsky Dec 2014 #135
Some folks in this thread are confusing "anti-Christian" wih "atheist". stone space Dec 2014 #60
And some people are confusing threats between sects of christianity in the US as anti-christian. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #61
Making death threats against Christian ministers for... stone space Dec 2014 #63
Sounds like you fired the first salvo as 'No True Christian'. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #64
I've known atheists who are anti-atheist. stone space Dec 2014 #66
Invalid page fault. Null pointer. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #68
You mean atheists who are pro-religion edhopper Dec 2014 #72
I've been personally asked if I burn churches. stone space Dec 2014 #75
Cool story, bro. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #82
There's a lot of ignorance out there. stone space Dec 2014 #83
DU has one. maybe you shouldn't have gotten yourself banned if you AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #102
DU has a forum for bashing militant atheists... stone space Dec 2014 #106
funny, thought you wete talking about a different group.... AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #107
A&A. (nt) stone space Dec 2014 #128
Uh-huh. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #130
you keep claiming you're a militant atheist but your actions are so far removed Lordquinton Dec 2014 #143
You basically said edhopper Dec 2014 #67
No, I didn't. Please reread the thread title. stone space Dec 2014 #69
So Christains edhopper Dec 2014 #71
And gays can be anti-gay, given a wide enough stance. stone space Dec 2014 #74
Yes edhopper Dec 2014 #76
They are making death threats... stone space Dec 2014 #77
Maybe edhopper Dec 2014 #78
It would be better titled 'christian fundamentalist terrorists', because that's what they are. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #79
Bullshit. stone space Dec 2014 #80
Do you deny that there are plenty of anti-christian's out there? AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #81
There are plenty of anti-Christians out there. stone space Dec 2014 #84
I dont think you even know what you're trying to say anymore. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #103
I'm thinking performance art now. n/t trotsky Dec 2014 #113
So you are capable of realizing the super-set of people YOU identified, is not the same group of AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #133
Of couse. Obviously, there are... stone space Dec 2014 #140
Did the bat sign go up on this one? cbayer Dec 2014 #87
Good grief. trotsky Dec 2014 #90
Is the title to the thread edhopper Dec 2014 #62
I don't care what they consider themselves. stone space Dec 2014 #65
So you are the edhopper Dec 2014 #70
Strawman. stone space Dec 2014 #73
Interesting. trotsky Dec 2014 #85
I just made the "quote" up. stone space Dec 2014 #89
Point stands. trotsky Dec 2014 #91
No, this thread illustrates my... stone space Dec 2014 #93
And it also reveals what you are. n/t trotsky Dec 2014 #96
I am a human being. stone space Dec 2014 #97
And also a biblical literalist. trotsky Dec 2014 #112
This isn't about me. stone space Dec 2014 #115
No one has been made uncomfortable by this article. trotsky Dec 2014 #118
EXACTLY. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #131
I think the point here is that the profiled minister is the kind of christian cbayer Dec 2014 #86
But they are not anti-Christians edhopper Dec 2014 #98
What would it take? stone space Dec 2014 #99
You miss the point edhopper Dec 2014 #105
Well, I would turn the question back on you. Who gets to decide who is anti-christian? cbayer Dec 2014 #101
I would not call edhopper Dec 2014 #108
This is a semantic argument at this point. cbayer Dec 2014 #110
most likely edhopper Dec 2014 #114
I didn't think you did and I think your arguments here are legitimate and sincere. cbayer Dec 2014 #116
Thanks edhopper Dec 2014 #119
I've never seen a changed title go particularly well. cbayer Dec 2014 #120
I think edhopper Dec 2014 #122
Yes, there is a point here. stone space Dec 2014 #125
Yet you insist on using a brush so broad, it impacts people who are not part of the group you CLAIM AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #126
If they don't want to be called... stone space Dec 2014 #127
Your deflective shield is impressive. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #129
You poor little victim act is getting old. stone space Dec 2014 #134
The article isn't. YOU made the thread about people like me when you expanded the subject AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #136
Everything is not about you. (nt) stone space Dec 2014 #137
Your dogged insistence on using the wrong term, is adequate proof. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #138
I do not think you understand... stone space Dec 2014 #139
As some Sunni Muslims edhopper Dec 2014 #141
C. The atheists. trotsky Dec 2014 #142
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