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In reply to the discussion: A Really Good Thing: Why we should celebrate the rise of atheism and secularity [View all]Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)157. nah, they figure out what the reasonable position is and then go pray and magically god agrees.
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A Really Good Thing: Why we should celebrate the rise of atheism and secularity [View all]
cleanhippie
Jul 2014
OP
Reality is tough to deal with and many have been "taught" since childhood that using religion as
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#1
"Clear think(ing)" and religion are not necessarily antithetical. I say this as a Secular Humanist.
WinkyDink
Jul 2014
#6
While I tend to agree, when it comes to religious belief, thinking is anything but clear.
cleanhippie
Jul 2014
#32
"disorganized" religion seems just as prone to irrational horsehit as the traditional kind.
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2014
#11
No we should spend more time confusing children with obsolete bullshit.
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2014
#10
I didn't know that before I was instructed by A Person Who Knows Everything.
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2014
#16
Also, if god has a plan for everything and has determined everything that will happen, why pray?
Arugula Latte
Jul 2014
#38
Perhaps I missed it, but where in this article are believers called "idiots"?
cleanhippie
Jul 2014
#52
The wording is ambiguous as a lone sentence, though which meaning cleanhippie intends is clear
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#149
Fry *was* expressing an opinion on what people say about religious beliefs
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#162
So yours is just a response in general, not to anything particular found here in THIS thread?
cleanhippie
Jul 2014
#53
That's what happens when it's thought healthy for children to be unable to tell fantasy from reality
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#128
You're not sitting there having your belief ridiculed by people calling you "weak-minded"
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2014
#48
Here's a quote from a guy who has deeply offended several hundred million religious people.
trotsky
Jul 2014
#154
I agree. Now tell that to those who have read the bible and find it offensive.
Starboard Tack
Jul 2014
#172
A lot of you believers in the supernatural have little context for how it feels to be the
Arugula Latte
Jul 2014
#205
Just so people know we believers can use reason as well. Don't care for this article much.
hrmjustin
Jul 2014
#57
nah, they figure out what the reasonable position is and then go pray and magically god agrees.
Warren Stupidity
Jul 2014
#157
What faith-based approach would solve the myriad real-world problems outlined in the article?
cleanhippie
Jul 2014
#61
No one has said that. But when it comes to your faith, you don't use reason.
cleanhippie
Jul 2014
#67
You just stated before that divesting in fossil fuels was a faith-based decision.
cleanhippie
Jul 2014
#76
Faith based decisions are based on prayer, accessing a situation, the greater good, and reasoning.
hrmjustin
Jul 2014
#92
"Based on prayer....and reasoning"? So which cancels the other out? Can't have both.
mr blur
Jul 2014
#113
Are you saying that he is wrong or that you just find it personally insulting?
cleanhippie
Jul 2014
#91
The point of the article is that he eventually wants religion to go away and he likes the trends now
hrmjustin
Jul 2014
#111
That things are becoming secular? I am all for the government being secular.
hrmjustin
Jul 2014
#122
So you actually believe that you have supernatural powers, through prayer?
PassingFair
Jul 2014
#180
Prayer works when we ask for inner strenght. I don't believe that God decides the ways of this world
hrmjustin
Jul 2014
#183
I do not limit the power of God. Be cause I believe something it does not make it so and the
hrmjustin
Jul 2014
#185
I'm not asking about the "power of God"...I'm asking about YOUR intercessory power, vis a vis God.
PassingFair
Jul 2014
#186
No I do not. I sais I put in a plug in but I feel that God does not decide the ways of this world.
hrmjustin
Jul 2014
#191
It's not a difference of ideas. It's an unwillingness to adhere to or agree on the definition
cleanhippie
Jul 2014
#196
No problem. it was a big war that I felt I did not know enough to take a side.
hrmjustin
Jul 2014
#200