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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
92. It's not true, it's just your perception.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:10 AM
Jun 2014

And there is a ton of confirmation bias going on here which is reinforced by the group you most closely identify with.

A militant anti-atheist would be someone who believes that atheists are amoral, evil, soulless and that atheism should be eliminated or punished. A militant anti-atheist would hold all atheists responsible for the behavior of some of them and call them apologists or worse.

Dawkins describes himself as a militant anti-theist. Did you not now that? I didn't choose those words, and, FWIW, I don't find him particularly militant. But he is clearly an anti-theist. He wears t-shirts that say "Religion - Together We Can Find a Cure". Would it be ok if someone wore a t-shirt saying "Atheism - Together We Can Find a Cure".

You have shown repeatedly that have decided what I am without really ever engaging with me in a meaningful way. I don't expect that to change, as it would disrupt your narrative.

I have never disputed that fact that their are religious militants who cause great harm and fully recognize that what they do is much worse than any militant anti-theist. But I'm not really interested in who is worse.

The fact is that there are a significant number of anti-theists who frequent this site, but very, very few anti-atheists. It is not an accurate representation of our society as a whole or the liberal/progressive population in general, but that's the way it is.

Meet an atheist ... who believes in God [View all] struggle4progress Jun 2014 OP
I'm not sure whether to vote for... TygrBright Jun 2014 #1
Can I vote more than once? okasha Jun 2014 #2
I agree with 9 of the 10. rug Jun 2014 #9
8.for me okasha Jun 2014 #11
Get back to me when my plane is going straight down at 300 mph randys1 Jun 2014 #3
You forgot, "mmmm that's tasty word salad" Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #4
Yep. I'd have voted for that option. DavidDvorkin Jun 2014 #37
The premise is self-contradictory. longship Jun 2014 #5
Those who convince themselves, that they have obtained a consistent struggle4progress Jun 2014 #17
Your point is well taken. longship Jun 2014 #19
I'm no expert, but it's my understanding that quantum field theory struggle4progress Jun 2014 #20
Yup! That's human cognitive dissonance in action. longship Jun 2014 #21
Only if you assume religious beliefs and physics have the same objectives struggle4progress Jun 2014 #22
Aha! NOMA. longship Jun 2014 #23
I think if you consider the matter carefully you may admit struggle4progress Jun 2014 #25
I am with you there. longship Jun 2014 #26
Physicists don't deal with people Lordquinton Jun 2014 #39
Physicists don't deal with people? Really? struggle4progress Jun 2014 #73
They're No True Physicists. okasha Jun 2014 #77
Oh hey, intentional obtuseness, how origonal Lordquinton Jun 2014 #81
Physics works just fine with people. trotsky Jun 2014 #90
LOL AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #94
This is not quantum theory or relativity LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #24
Yet it is entirely possible, without having a guaranteed consistent and accurate view of the world.. trotsky Jun 2014 #27
By definition your opinion sounds more agnostic, Mr Frank Schaeffer. T2- Jun 2014 #6
Author in the OP is ignorant of the actual meaning of 'agnostic', because "unknowing" is pretty much AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #7
Not to mention 'atheist'... -eom gcomeau Jun 2014 #64
Schaeffer has misidentified himself. He's a Deist, not an atheist. Warpy Jun 2014 #8
“I know that the only thing that exists is this material universe,” and “I know that my redeemer liv Jim__ Jun 2014 #10
Why the fuck are you promoting this lying douchebag? He's a Christian, NOT an atheist. Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #12
LOL okasha Jun 2014 #13
Aye, lassie. rug Jun 2014 #14
From his current writings, okasha Jun 2014 #76
Thanks for the info. rug Jun 2014 #89
Atheism is a boolean true/false proposition. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #95
This is a guy who claims we live by his "spiritual" rules, regardless of our beliefs... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #16
Oh, please. okasha Jun 2014 #78
Every time my ass, prove it. Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #84
okasha, please quit this nonsense. trotsky Jun 2014 #91
Talk about a colossal misunderstanding of the NTS fallacy. trotsky Jun 2014 #28
Because he tells them what they want to hear MellowDem Jun 2014 #18
Lol! You win. cbayer Jun 2014 #32
Honestly, this man isn't ignorant, at least I don't think so, just dishonest... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #38
Well, you recently called me an anti-atheist bigot, which I am not. cbayer Jun 2014 #41
You claim you are not, everything your posts says otherwise... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #44
Everything I post? Do you read everything I post? cbayer Jun 2014 #45
Oh please, that's a double standard, if I ever heard one... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #46
Good grief. Calm down. okasha Jun 2014 #47
So basically you don't know science. you are a photographer, not an... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #50
Clean miss, on all points. okasha Jun 2014 #53
By the way, I'm a she, but you do appear to be the master of false assumptions. cbayer Jun 2014 #55
I'm just a bad atheist, living up to expectations, sorry I didn't know you were a she though. Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #57
Well, you may have done some reading but why would you then assume cbayer Jun 2014 #60
I have a problem when people pretend to know the answer instead of saying "I don't know"... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #61
I share that with you and prefer for people to say I don't know when they don't. cbayer Jun 2014 #62
I haven't seen "Her" yet, I do want to see it, my problem is I don't, in general, like romances... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #65
If you are interested in the potential evolution of AI, you might really like it. cbayer Jun 2014 #66
I think the reason we make assumptions about the basic building blocks of life is because... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #67
It seems that you're not okasha Jun 2014 #79
You are completely within your rights to criticize this writer and be offended by him. cbayer Jun 2014 #48
I call them bigots when they hold others to different standards based on nothing but whether they... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #49
You are again telling me what I think and how I think people have to be. cbayer Jun 2014 #52
I'm not talking about the people here, I"m talking about in general... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #54
Why do you insist on telling me what I would be doing? cbayer Jun 2014 #56
See, this is the big gap, I don't view being a militant anti-theist as a bad thing... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #71
cbayer does something similar skepticscott Jun 2014 #72
But telling us to STFU is one thing. trotsky Jun 2014 #74
Let's not forget promoting genocide skepticscott Jun 2014 #75
When someone says that you're biased against atheists Lordquinton Jun 2014 #82
It's not true, it's just your perception. cbayer Jun 2014 #92
What I find most fascinating is that... trotsky Jun 2014 #93
In fairness, by his standards I probably *don't* 'grieve properly'. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #70
Let me introduce you skepticscott Jun 2014 #15
A pregnant woman who isn't pregnant. Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #29
Amy Pond? n/t trotsky Jun 2014 #31
Well played. n/t Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #35
Objection! It was her doppleganger that was giving a false negative report... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #42
I think he does a good job of showing what a complex issue this is. cbayer Jun 2014 #30
cbayer, YOU are the one so intent on creating teams. trotsky Jun 2014 #33
Theism and atheism are about belief in the existence of a deity, there is no halfway point. Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #40
Disagree. I think there are grey areas and that some people cbayer Jun 2014 #43
Agnosticism IS the grey area. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #69
Bottom line - no one really KNOWS. No one. djean111 Jun 2014 #34
I tend to agree... a lot uriel1972 Jun 2014 #36
Agnostic = elleng Jun 2014 #51
And I think that's an absolutely acceptable definition. cbayer Jun 2014 #58
GOOD, cbayer! elleng Jun 2014 #59
Sorry, but that's a silly and unsupportable definition skepticscott Jun 2014 #68
More accurately, "meet someone who doesn't know what the word 'atheist' means." gcomeau Jun 2014 #63
And I'm a christian who doesn't believe in God. beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #80
Atheist literally translates to without god Lordquinton Jun 2014 #83
Some people recognize their own inconsistencies and self-contradictions and struggle4progress Jun 2014 #85
There are inconsistencies and self contradictions and then there is being flat out wrong. LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #88
Chapter 9 struggle4progress Jun 2014 #86
For an atheist he sure does talk a lot about what Jesus did and didn't do. beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author struggle4progress Jun 2014 #96
incredibly good to see you Goblinmonger Jun 2014 #98
Lonely. beam me up scottie Jun 2014 #99
ITT LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #97
Excellent post. trotsky Jun 2014 #100
I prefer the term godless... Kalidurga Jun 2014 #101
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