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In reply to the discussion: Top Ten Q&As About God, Jesus, the Bible & LGBT People [View all]LostOne4Ever
(9,317 posts)69. How is that any different?
I objected to the word because it was being used exclusively as a way of attacking others and not in any other sense.
How is that any different? The word militant atheist, or fundamentalist atheist are used the same exact ways both here and in real life.
In the end, I felt that it was best declawed by adopting it's true meaning and not taking offense to it in the future.
Well, I am going to continue NOT using the word. Other people have voiced concerns that its offensive, and in acknowledgement of their feelings I am going to accept their request.
If you want to use it, feel free. I just ask that you at least acknowledge that many people object to its use.
The word militant has been used at times as a slur, but it's also been used as an accurate descriptor, which it certainly seems to be in this case. I don't think I've ever used it as a slur, but have encountered pushback when I have used it to describe specific behavior.
I never used r**********a as a slur (or ever) but I have encountered push back from it's use as well.
Here is a website using it as a slur:
http://ffaf.weebly.com/
And, I am sure that the people who do use the term r**********a, also feel it is an accurate descriptor.
Your response to AC here is full of contradictions to your post about what atheists want. It addresses a movement, leaders and other things. I don't know what it was all about really, but it makes me truly curious as to what it is you really want.
I never said movements don't exist in that thread. I said to quit calling atheism a movement. I never called anyone a Leader of atheism here. I don't think I used leader at all.
My post here was a response to AC saying that he was not the type of person to make elegant speeches, but the type to be provocative. Further, his comments were in regard to LGBTQ issues (not atheism) specifically and his outlook in general. My comments were in the same vein though I also brought up a person (O'Hair) who fought for the rights of unbelievers as well as MLK and Malcolm X.
My position is the same as all the other times we have disagreed (respectfully) on this issue. Atheism in and of itself is not a movement. It is a disbelief/lack of belief in the existence of god and nothing more. Atheists can be part of a movement. Movements can be started by an atheists or composed of atheists.
But Atheism is not a movement and does not have leaders.
Does this clear up my statements and resolve any perceived contradictions? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying.
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If you are finding it difficult making distinctions and decisions, maybe this might help you.
stone space
Jun 2014
#45
I suppose that explains why I am able to make a choice when I see Rev. Russell's beliefs compared...
stone space
Jun 2014
#51
Well, I tend to be a somewhat progressive and militant atheist, not a fundamentalist atheist.
stone space
Jun 2014
#22
Well, I did make a post in the A&A forum when asked about my atheist beliefs there, shortly after...
stone space
Jun 2014
#36
I was specifically told not to use the term "militant atheist" or I would be banned from A&A.
stone space
Jun 2014
#53
No. I will not allow myself to be pushed into the closet. It just ain't gonna happen.
stone space
Jun 2014
#57
Incidentally, your gratuitous use of the N-Word does nothing to bolster your case against...
stone space
Jun 2014
#62
I'm not going to repost the pasages above. I just want the harassment to stop, that's all. (nt)
stone space
Jun 2014
#71
My snap judgment in the A&A thread a couple weeks ago, I have set aside.
AtheistCrusader
Jun 2014
#41
I've already been banned from one forum here at DU for refusing to be pushed into the closet...
stone space
Jun 2014
#39
Honestly, I am not surprised that there are co-workers that refuse to speak to you.
cbayer
Jun 2014
#19
You should disclose your relationship when claiming neutral observer status.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2014
#108
Some folk write about themselves and pretend they're talking to someone else.
Starboard Tack
Jun 2014
#112
Also, it's still 'early'. The federal government is discriminating against an entire class of citize
AtheistCrusader
Jun 2014
#47
"It's time to stop screaming at some people, imo, let along (sic) going for their jugulars"
trotsky
Jun 2014
#49
There is a spanish sounding word beginning with an "R" and ending in "ista" that you object to
LostOne4Ever
Jun 2014
#58
Of course atheism has been around a long time, but has it been organized to the
cbayer
Jun 2014
#132
I don't think that there is an organized effort to paint atheism as a religion.
cbayer
Jun 2014
#140
You're confusing "progressive liberal" with "atheist". They're not the same thing.
rug
Jun 2014
#128
Yep! It sure makes one wonder what their true motives are in coming here.
Starboard Tack
Jun 2014
#148
I'm gay and appreciate this piece. It takes a number of voices to make a difference. Or a symphony.
pinto
Jun 2014
#59
I may be missing something as well. Yet, it seems the tide in re: equality has turned.
pinto
Jun 2014
#81
Why present the bible as a source of authority if you're going to deliberately misinterpret it?
Donald Ian Rankin
Jun 2014
#103
I have read this interpretation before and I think you have to go with what you have.
cbayer
Jun 2014
#137
I'll have to paraphrase New Testament textual critic Bart D. Ehrman...
Act_of_Reparation
Jun 2014
#160