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In reply to the discussion: 'I didn't kill her. I killed the demon inside her' - Religious delusion kills again. [View all]skepticscott
(13,029 posts)66. In a nutshell
there is an enormous difference between a tool and a motivation.
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'I didn't kill her. I killed the demon inside her' - Religious delusion kills again. [View all]
cleanhippie
Mar 2014
OP
Insanity/murderousness seems to take on a religious character often. Or vice-versa.
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#16
That's the matter we are interested in determining here, in an open-minded way
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#31
You do realize if he did not hear of religion he still could have done these things.
hrmjustin
Mar 2014
#34
Both are helpful. But if he'd seen it intellectually in time? Less need for meds. And maybe ...
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#55
Actually, I here offer thanks to DU for providing part of the answer to Mental Delusion/Illness
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#97
The RCC is one example. yes really religion should stop propagating dangerous woo.
Warren Stupidity
Mar 2014
#15
The Bible warns about "false" and evil "spirits" that appear to be good and from God
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#99
Sounds about right. My point though would be that even spiritual Christianity has problems
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#108
I think those are good warnings; anything if carried to extremes can be problematic
el_bryanto
Mar 2014
#111
This does not clear up the matter; it's not either/or Religious Delusion v. Mental Illness
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#98
Most of the Psychology articles we looked at in "Religion=Delusion" confirm what I'm saying
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#109
Psychiatric literature, here, is suggesting it might BE religion's fault
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#112
If you're going to speak on mental illness, isn't testimony of professional psychiatrists relevant?
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#114
When someone makes the claim that religion causes brain tumors and diabetes, you'll have a point
cleanhippie
Mar 2014
#74
I think anything worded as so amateurs can understand it is amateurish.
Act_of_Reparation
Mar 2014
#85
Beyond your vague general source, the professional articles we cited clearly disagree with you
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#102
Are the cases of religious filicide quoted in our cited psychological journal also anecdotal?
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#153
An idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#91
So when one professional psychologist after another links religion to mental illness,even as a cause
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#103
Even our most positive reports are indecisive. 1) The most pro-religion source is just an MA thesis?
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#121
Your claim in #103 was "one professional psychologist after another links religion to mental illness
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#122
Freud and many psychologists ... said religion is a delusion (Dr. Pierre, Jour. Psych. Prac. 2001?)
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#126
I think psychologists and psychiatrists are entitled to opinions, like everyone else
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#135
Psychologists have opinions. But professional opinions expressed in refereed journals....
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#139
Nonsense. Mental illness kills again; religion has nothing whatsoever to do with it. N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
Mar 2014
#96
Very clearly stated. Unfortunately, we've cited Psychiatric lit which directly contradicts you
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#100
A delusion involving God, the bible, saints and demons is not a 'religious delusion'?
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2014
#117
We've cited many psychologists who say 1) "delusion" often takes religious form
Brettongarcia
Mar 2014
#127
I'm sorry, did someone actually propose that by "shutting down religion," we could...
trotsky
Mar 2014
#133