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In reply to the discussion: We need a ginormous food fight here, so let's have a frank little chat about demons [View all]trotsky
(49,533 posts)158. You're the one who keeps bringing up indoctrination.
That's really irrelevant. Demons and exorcisms are religious concepts. One can pick them up from being raised in, around, or in a society steeped in religion.
"I'd like to think that most would stop themselves from murdering a child because they believed it to be possessed."
I'd like to think that too. But if we condition people to accept that some things don't need evidence or reason; they can (and indeed, should!) be taken on faith, well...
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We need a ginormous food fight here, so let's have a frank little chat about demons [View all]
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
OP
Is that true? Maybe "bad" people were "exorcised" from a community, by killing them?
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#83
Exorcism in the proper sense, exorcises demon from individual. But cf. individual, from community
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#85
When Moses found some worshiping the golden calf etc., they were removed by killing them
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#89
I understand that but tell me a faith that kills peopl during an exorcism currently.
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#94
Is it a doctrine to kill them in the procedure or is it exorcism gone into murder?
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#97
Other than Jesus and Lazarus I think medical science brings people back from
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#101
And many believe that demons and evil spirits exist, and can posses people, right?
trotsky
Jan 2014
#107
In the official RCC procedure for exorcism, the individual believed to be possessed...
trotsky
Jan 2014
#113
Rituals of exorcism, are continuous with "purification" practices; including executing the unclean
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#127
Who said all beliefs are equal? The Bible definitely had preferences. So do many of us
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#130
"So we need to look to see if your beliefs are good. If they don't seem good, we try to tell you so"
hrmjustin
Jan 2014
#132
The core problem with DU religionists cbayer&Rug: they feel there is a "real," good religion.
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#137
When you speak of the problem being religion gone bad, from the mentally ill...
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#139
Could you clarify what you mean when you say some religion is not delusional?
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#142
As I have no psychiatric or psychological training, and as the OP is essentially the only effort
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#13
However, that is using the "demons are evil aspects of ourselves" definition
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2014
#4
I'm afraid my philosophical ideas about "the self" are not clear enough to allow me
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#23
The US poll said 46% of the "yes" or "don't know" possession group "believe in the power of exorcism
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2014
#50
And none of that instilling or reinforcing of idiotic and dangerous belief
skepticscott
Jan 2014
#53
yes. now it is your turn. can a psychotic person perform a religious ritual?
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2014
#64
Yes, I once came across a person on a discussion board who would make statements
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2014
#149
What the fuck are you talking about when talking about demons? How does it relate to...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#57
I have repeatedly been attacked in this group, for some years, because of my habit of noticing
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#58
But why call them demons? That's minimizing the struggle and needs of those who...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#60
What I actually say in this thread is: in the pre-scientific age, what we now call
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#63
It is your position that "demons" were a pre-scientific explanation for mental illness...
Act_of_Reparation
Jan 2014
#65
I don't know where she got her ideas: she was reportedly convinced she could see
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#67
Where did the concept of demons, and the notion of exorcism to get rid of them, come from?
trotsky
Feb 2014
#156
As I have explained repeatedly, patients suffering with significant psychiatric disorders
cbayer
Jan 2014
#91
You are free to provide actual evidence tracing the ideas of Avery or Sanford
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#68
We all die of old age etc.; so in effect God kills all his sons and daughters
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#80
Solid post! You clearly laid out your rules for what is and is not acceptable here in this group.
cleanhippie
Jan 2014
#111
I have been diagnosed with Schitzoaffective disorder, bi polar type, and paranoid delusions and
bravenak
Jan 2014
#122
It's really interesting that your atheism gives you the opportunity to recognize when
cbayer
Jan 2014
#123
I don't think we disagree. It doesn't help when some people have a similar belief
cbayer
Jan 2014
#143