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cbayer

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169. I have never called everyone who rejects the idea of gods anti-theists. Never.

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 11:38 AM

Dec 2013

I have made the distinction very clear and am very aware that there are many atheists who post here who are in no way anti-theists.

I'm not sure what the "opposing side" means. You don't believe in gods, other people do, some just plain don't know and there are a bunch who really don't care.

And then there are people who denigrate others who are not in their "camp" and make broad brush sweeping comments about their intelligence, psychiatric state, level of maturation, trustworthiness, etc.

When they go on to say things like "Religion poisons everything" or "Religion: Together we can find the cure", they have moved into an anti-theist position. Gone is tolerance or a sense that some people just have a different experience. It's now become a poison and a disease which must be erradicated.

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In Defense of “Asshole” Atheism [View all] rug Dec 2013 OP

This is why the term "bigotry" does not apply to criticizing religious beliefs. arcane1 Dec 2013 #1

Did you have a point you wanted to make? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #2

Explain this: "While your attraction to anything with "asshole" in the title is understandable" rug Dec 2013 #4

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #5

Explain what you ean by "attraction to anything with asshole". rug Dec 2013 #6

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #8

Explain yourself. I don't want to assume your remark is homophobic. rug Dec 2013 #10

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #11

The assumption is now warranted. rug Dec 2013 #12

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #13

Run away from your words. They're still here. rug Dec 2013 #17

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #18

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #20

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #23

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #24

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #25

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #29

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #30

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #37

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #42

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #44

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #46

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #54

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #55

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #57

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #60

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #64

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #65

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #66

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #68

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #70

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #71

So, explain it. rug Dec 2013 #73

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #77

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #81

Hey! We women have assholes, too! PassingFair Dec 2013 #163

I wonder if the fact that I find a woman's asshole more far more attractive ... spin Dec 2013 #177

I don't know that isolated, and, perhaps, depilatated, that I could even differentiate... PassingFair Dec 2013 #178

That's a good point. I'm not sure that I could tell the difference either. (n/t) spin Dec 2013 #179

Well, some theists will call atheists assholes no matter what they say. longship Dec 2013 #7

Can't really argue with you, but is like to know rug's reason for posting this. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #9

I'd like to know why you keep distancing yourself from your own words. rug Dec 2013 #15

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #16

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #19

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #21

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #22

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #26

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #28

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #31

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #34

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #39

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #45

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #47

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #49

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #51

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #59

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #62

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #67

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #69

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #72

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #74

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #80

Well, you only asked him a few times. longship Dec 2013 #32

I don't have a point, I have a question. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #38

I have a pointed question. rug Dec 2013 #52

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #53

Sigh, more evasion. rug Dec 2013 #56

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #58

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #61

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #63

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #75

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #78

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #82

Or maybe you should discuss the topic of the post instead of the one who posted it. longship Dec 2013 #83

I'd just like to know the reason it was posted. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #88

Three dozen times seems excessive, doesn't it? nt longship Dec 2013 #89

If you say so. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #90

Your real response to Rug HERVEPA Dec 2013 #181

This Demosthenes is as pissed off at what he calls "politically correct athests". rug Dec 2013 #14

Well, no matter what one writes or says on the topic it's gonna piss somebody off. longship Dec 2013 #27

I don't know why cleanhippie's so pissed off by that post. rug Dec 2013 #33

... longship Dec 2013 #36

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #40

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #48

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #50

You. rug Dec 2013 #76

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #79

You're up to three dozen evasions. rug Dec 2013 #84

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #87

I see you had a good rest. rug Dec 2013 #100

A fairly straight polemic. longship Dec 2013 #3

For me, it is not "you dedicated your entire life to a colossal mistake" BlueStreak Dec 2013 #35

That's where it is for me, too. longship Dec 2013 #41

Well, for me, bad rhetoric is right there at the top of the list wth it. rug Dec 2013 #43

What is wrong with that edhopper Dec 2013 #91

It is the flip side of Duck Dynasty. rug Dec 2013 #98

How so? edhopper Dec 2013 #105

It has half the charm and a quarter of the intellect. rug Dec 2013 #109

eye of the beholder indeed. edhopper Dec 2013 #111

You guess wrong. rug Dec 2013 #113

Which beliefs does the author show disrespect for edhopper Dec 2013 #114

You can start with this exercise in prejudgment and inanity and wade through the rest. rug Dec 2013 #117

I would call that edhopper Dec 2013 #118

I would call it what he calls it in his headline. rug Dec 2013 #120

so you posted this for people to see edhopper Dec 2013 #122

I agree pretty much with what he said too, but Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #123

I heard you were under the weather. rug Dec 2013 #124

Thanks. I'm coming out of it. Almost back to normal. Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #127

Good to see you. pinto Dec 2013 #135

You too, my friend Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #162

Go figure. rug Dec 2013 #125

Well, edhopper Dec 2013 #136

I didn't. rug Dec 2013 #137

so why did you post it. edhopper Dec 2013 #140

It sounded familiar. rug Dec 2013 #142

thanks for clarifying edhopper Dec 2013 #147

"Slaves, obey your masters"; biblical quote Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #128

"Tippecanoe and Tyler too"; political quote rug Dec 2013 #129

A part of the Bible. And one used by the South as part of its basis for slavery. (Cf. also "Ham"). Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #133

Oh, please . . . . rug Dec 2013 #134

"Oh please"? Is that a cogent argument? So far, you've answered no objections whatsoever Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #143

If you give me an original argument you may get one. rug Dec 2013 #146

Still no answer to the objection say that Judeo-Christ supports killing innocent "sons" of Egyptians Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #149

There are dozen of answers. rug Dec 2013 #150

Mine is a classic objection that you still have not answered Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #151

If it's classic, it's not yours. rug Dec 2013 #152

It's classic, because its a durable objection to Christianity; one that hasn't been refuted Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #153

If the objection was dispositive, it would no longer be an objection. rug Dec 2013 #155

It remains "an objection" rather than established fact, only to "believers" who believe, over reason Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #156

After you're done, look up the difference between opinion and fact. rug Dec 2013 #159

The historical facts are clear: for centuries religious killings cited the Bible as authorization Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #167

So The Biblical Flood of Noah never happened? And was never asserted either? Or was somehow, Good? Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #92

Of course it didn't happen as described BlueStreak Dec 2013 #93

So two problems with religion: it's not factually true. AND however, it says mass killings are good Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #94

Allegory is not inherently bad BlueStreak Dec 2013 #95

Allegory per se, can be good. But what is THIS specific allegory saying? Is its message good? Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #96

It's what happens when you take a Babylonian Flood story edhopper Dec 2013 #97

There's another claim in there. rug Dec 2013 #99

So killing first-born Egyptian sons is OK, or even plausibly moral? Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #103

Should anyone (atheists etc.) really respect such a view? Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #107

He, and apparently you, should understand didactic literature before claiming anyone is rug Dec 2013 #110

The word "didactic" commonly has a negative meaning: excessive moralizing. Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #116

No it doesn't. It means teaching. rug Dec 2013 #119

Your dictionary is too small. In Art say, "didactic" implies inevitably simplistic rule-making. Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #121

The article isn't about Art, though your definition fits it. rug Dec 2013 #126

The full OED is probably still off line; too commercially valuable - and definitive Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #130

No, I just checked. It's paid subscription only now. rug Dec 2013 #132

FWIW, I can access it through my library muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #141

Thanks. I'll have to check the pricing and see if they have a single-use fee should the need arise. rug Dec 2013 #144

That's probably the "short" OED? The long OED definition should fill about a typed page or so Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #145

I didn't give the quotations muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #157

Well, no, it actually doesn't. okasha Dec 2013 #165

Like the myth edhopper Dec 2013 #108

There's a lot of myth in the story of the Nativity. rug Dec 2013 #112

Sure edhopper Dec 2013 #115

Noah's flood was probably due to climate change. ... spin Dec 2013 #180

Similar concept in thread by nomorenomore08 linked below intaglio Dec 2013 #85

Yet there comes a point when "tone" becoomes a personality disorder. rug Dec 2013 #102

At this point Inkfreak Dec 2013 #86

Lol! rug Dec 2013 #101

Well, the juvenile nature of this OP is certainly reflected in the conversation cbayer Dec 2013 #104

+1 madrchsod Dec 2013 #154

That pretty much sums it up. dimbear Dec 2013 #158

Outside of the rest of the thread, the OP is actually right, I mean... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #106

That my friend is bullshit and you know it. Leontius Dec 2013 #148

Not really, from my own observations in discussing various... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #160

From my own observations in discussing various cbayer Dec 2013 #164

Your attempt at a role reversal doesn't really make any sense... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #166

I don't even know where to start with that video, as I find it one of cbayer Dec 2013 #170

Yes over the top reactions by anti-theists, and if you want, I can search for many... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #173

I think there are over the top reactions on both ends of the spectrum. cbayer Dec 2013 #174

You could start edhopper Dec 2013 #168

I have never called everyone who rejects the idea of gods anti-theists. Never. cbayer Dec 2013 #169

Okay edhopper Dec 2013 #171

I don't care whether people debate the existence of god, cbayer Dec 2013 #172

You mean we instead of I? edhopper Dec 2013 #175

Yes, we instead of I. cbayer Dec 2013 #176

Maybe you should start a thread. edhopper Dec 2013 #182

I think not. It would mostly likely be a flame war. cbayer Dec 2013 #183

I don't think edhopper Dec 2013 #184

This OP got you guys talking. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #131

Not counting 72 posts. rug Dec 2013 #138

lol I love both of you. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #139

does this mean we can start talking about "Protestantism minus the Christianity"? MisterP Dec 2013 #161