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117. You can start with this exercise in prejudgment and inanity and wade through the rest.

Sun Dec 29, 2013, 01:49 PM

Dec 2013

With the above, I’m not encompassing fence-sitters and liberal Christians. Such people aren’t really Abrahamic theists; they ignore the genocide, rape, chauvinism, and slavery, while only focusing on the happy lines. Cherry picking the nice parts doesn’t really make you a true believer. In actuality, they’ve created a new ideology distinct from the Biblical reality. They are Christian-ish. They can be reasoned with, because they never accepted the entire book to begin with.

I've done it once. I won't do it twice, not even for you. Sorry, ed.

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In Defense of “Asshole” Atheism [View all] rug Dec 2013 OP

This is why the term "bigotry" does not apply to criticizing religious beliefs. arcane1 Dec 2013 #1

Did you have a point you wanted to make? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #2

Explain this: "While your attraction to anything with "asshole" in the title is understandable" rug Dec 2013 #4

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #5

Explain what you ean by "attraction to anything with asshole". rug Dec 2013 #6

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #8

Explain yourself. I don't want to assume your remark is homophobic. rug Dec 2013 #10

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #11

The assumption is now warranted. rug Dec 2013 #12

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #13

Run away from your words. They're still here. rug Dec 2013 #17

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #18

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #20

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #23

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #24

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #25

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #29

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #30

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #37

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #42

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #44

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #46

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #54

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #55

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #57

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #60

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #64

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #65

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #66

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #68

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #70

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #71

So, explain it. rug Dec 2013 #73

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #77

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #81

Hey! We women have assholes, too! PassingFair Dec 2013 #163

I wonder if the fact that I find a woman's asshole more far more attractive ... spin Dec 2013 #177

I don't know that isolated, and, perhaps, depilatated, that I could even differentiate... PassingFair Dec 2013 #178

That's a good point. I'm not sure that I could tell the difference either. (n/t) spin Dec 2013 #179

Well, some theists will call atheists assholes no matter what they say. longship Dec 2013 #7

Can't really argue with you, but is like to know rug's reason for posting this. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #9

I'd like to know why you keep distancing yourself from your own words. rug Dec 2013 #15

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #16

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #19

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #21

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #22

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #26

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #28

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #31

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #34

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #39

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #45

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #47

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #49

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #51

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #59

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #62

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #67

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #69

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #72

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #74

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #80

Well, you only asked him a few times. longship Dec 2013 #32

I don't have a point, I have a question. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #38

I have a pointed question. rug Dec 2013 #52

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #53

Sigh, more evasion. rug Dec 2013 #56

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #58

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #61

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #63

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #75

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #78

Did you have a point you wanted to make by using homophobic language? rug Dec 2013 #82

Or maybe you should discuss the topic of the post instead of the one who posted it. longship Dec 2013 #83

I'd just like to know the reason it was posted. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #88

Three dozen times seems excessive, doesn't it? nt longship Dec 2013 #89

If you say so. cleanhippie Dec 2013 #90

Your real response to Rug HERVEPA Dec 2013 #181

This Demosthenes is as pissed off at what he calls "politically correct athests". rug Dec 2013 #14

Well, no matter what one writes or says on the topic it's gonna piss somebody off. longship Dec 2013 #27

I don't know why cleanhippie's so pissed off by that post. rug Dec 2013 #33

... longship Dec 2013 #36

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #40

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting "attraction to anything with asshole"? rug Dec 2013 #48

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #50

You. rug Dec 2013 #76

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #79

You're up to three dozen evasions. rug Dec 2013 #84

Did you have a point you wanted to make by posting this article? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #87

I see you had a good rest. rug Dec 2013 #100

A fairly straight polemic. longship Dec 2013 #3

For me, it is not "you dedicated your entire life to a colossal mistake" BlueStreak Dec 2013 #35

That's where it is for me, too. longship Dec 2013 #41

Well, for me, bad rhetoric is right there at the top of the list wth it. rug Dec 2013 #43

What is wrong with that edhopper Dec 2013 #91

It is the flip side of Duck Dynasty. rug Dec 2013 #98

How so? edhopper Dec 2013 #105

It has half the charm and a quarter of the intellect. rug Dec 2013 #109

eye of the beholder indeed. edhopper Dec 2013 #111

You guess wrong. rug Dec 2013 #113

Which beliefs does the author show disrespect for edhopper Dec 2013 #114

You can start with this exercise in prejudgment and inanity and wade through the rest. rug Dec 2013 #117

I would call that edhopper Dec 2013 #118

I would call it what he calls it in his headline. rug Dec 2013 #120

so you posted this for people to see edhopper Dec 2013 #122

I agree pretty much with what he said too, but Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #123

I heard you were under the weather. rug Dec 2013 #124

Thanks. I'm coming out of it. Almost back to normal. Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #127

Good to see you. pinto Dec 2013 #135

You too, my friend Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #162

Go figure. rug Dec 2013 #125

Well, edhopper Dec 2013 #136

I didn't. rug Dec 2013 #137

so why did you post it. edhopper Dec 2013 #140

It sounded familiar. rug Dec 2013 #142

thanks for clarifying edhopper Dec 2013 #147

"Slaves, obey your masters"; biblical quote Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #128

"Tippecanoe and Tyler too"; political quote rug Dec 2013 #129

A part of the Bible. And one used by the South as part of its basis for slavery. (Cf. also "Ham"). Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #133

Oh, please . . . . rug Dec 2013 #134

"Oh please"? Is that a cogent argument? So far, you've answered no objections whatsoever Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #143

If you give me an original argument you may get one. rug Dec 2013 #146

Still no answer to the objection say that Judeo-Christ supports killing innocent "sons" of Egyptians Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #149

There are dozen of answers. rug Dec 2013 #150

Mine is a classic objection that you still have not answered Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #151

If it's classic, it's not yours. rug Dec 2013 #152

It's classic, because its a durable objection to Christianity; one that hasn't been refuted Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #153

If the objection was dispositive, it would no longer be an objection. rug Dec 2013 #155

It remains "an objection" rather than established fact, only to "believers" who believe, over reason Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #156

After you're done, look up the difference between opinion and fact. rug Dec 2013 #159

The historical facts are clear: for centuries religious killings cited the Bible as authorization Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #167

So The Biblical Flood of Noah never happened? And was never asserted either? Or was somehow, Good? Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #92

Of course it didn't happen as described BlueStreak Dec 2013 #93

So two problems with religion: it's not factually true. AND however, it says mass killings are good Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #94

Allegory is not inherently bad BlueStreak Dec 2013 #95

Allegory per se, can be good. But what is THIS specific allegory saying? Is its message good? Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #96

It's what happens when you take a Babylonian Flood story edhopper Dec 2013 #97

There's another claim in there. rug Dec 2013 #99

So killing first-born Egyptian sons is OK, or even plausibly moral? Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #103

Should anyone (atheists etc.) really respect such a view? Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #107

He, and apparently you, should understand didactic literature before claiming anyone is rug Dec 2013 #110

The word "didactic" commonly has a negative meaning: excessive moralizing. Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #116

No it doesn't. It means teaching. rug Dec 2013 #119

Your dictionary is too small. In Art say, "didactic" implies inevitably simplistic rule-making. Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #121

The article isn't about Art, though your definition fits it. rug Dec 2013 #126

The full OED is probably still off line; too commercially valuable - and definitive Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #130

No, I just checked. It's paid subscription only now. rug Dec 2013 #132

FWIW, I can access it through my library muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #141

Thanks. I'll have to check the pricing and see if they have a single-use fee should the need arise. rug Dec 2013 #144

That's probably the "short" OED? The long OED definition should fill about a typed page or so Brettongarcia Dec 2013 #145

I didn't give the quotations muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #157

Well, no, it actually doesn't. okasha Dec 2013 #165

Like the myth edhopper Dec 2013 #108

There's a lot of myth in the story of the Nativity. rug Dec 2013 #112

Sure edhopper Dec 2013 #115

Noah's flood was probably due to climate change. ... spin Dec 2013 #180

Similar concept in thread by nomorenomore08 linked below intaglio Dec 2013 #85

Yet there comes a point when "tone" becoomes a personality disorder. rug Dec 2013 #102

At this point Inkfreak Dec 2013 #86

Lol! rug Dec 2013 #101

Well, the juvenile nature of this OP is certainly reflected in the conversation cbayer Dec 2013 #104

+1 madrchsod Dec 2013 #154

That pretty much sums it up. dimbear Dec 2013 #158

Outside of the rest of the thread, the OP is actually right, I mean... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #106

That my friend is bullshit and you know it. Leontius Dec 2013 #148

Not really, from my own observations in discussing various... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #160

From my own observations in discussing various cbayer Dec 2013 #164

Your attempt at a role reversal doesn't really make any sense... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #166

I don't even know where to start with that video, as I find it one of cbayer Dec 2013 #170

Yes over the top reactions by anti-theists, and if you want, I can search for many... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #173

I think there are over the top reactions on both ends of the spectrum. cbayer Dec 2013 #174

You could start edhopper Dec 2013 #168

I have never called everyone who rejects the idea of gods anti-theists. Never. cbayer Dec 2013 #169

Okay edhopper Dec 2013 #171

I don't care whether people debate the existence of god, cbayer Dec 2013 #172

You mean we instead of I? edhopper Dec 2013 #175

Yes, we instead of I. cbayer Dec 2013 #176

Maybe you should start a thread. edhopper Dec 2013 #182

I think not. It would mostly likely be a flame war. cbayer Dec 2013 #183

I don't think edhopper Dec 2013 #184

This OP got you guys talking. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #131

Not counting 72 posts. rug Dec 2013 #138

lol I love both of you. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #139

does this mean we can start talking about "Protestantism minus the Christianity"? MisterP Dec 2013 #161