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intaglio

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Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:05 AM Nov 2013

Religiously enabled Child Sexual Abuse is not just a Christian problem [View all]

Links and excerpts about 2 stories regarding this.
First a case relating to Judaism. A message from Tzedek Founder & CEO Manny Waks

As many of you would be aware, I was sexually abused as a child while a student at Melbourne’s Yeshivah College and a member of the Yeshivah community.

/snip

My major grievances are directed solely at the Yeshivah leadership, past and present. They failed then, and are failing now.

How does it make sense that the Yeshivah leadership that was in place during much of the abuse and cover-ups, and among other things:
was directly responsible for shipping off a perpetrator (former Yeshivah teacher David Kramer), who went on to re-offend overseas (please read the powerful Victim Impact Statement written by one of Kramer’s victims and read out by me in court on their behalf);

despite the many allegations that were brought to their attention, allowed Cyprys to remain in charge of security until the mid-2000s;

despite the many allegations that were brought to their attention, allowed Cyprys to attend Chabad Summer Camps;

despite the many allegations against Cyprys, placed a student in his care whom he repeatedly abused;

asked a victim to leave the school for daring to speak out and take action regarding his abuse by Cyprys;

was publicly criticised by Victoria Police in court for not cooperating with them in these investigations; and
includes a senior member whose testimony was described by the Magistrate as being “unfathomable”;


Tzedek (Hebrew for Justice) is an Australian-based advocacy group for Jewish victims/survivors of child sexual abuse—promoting their needs and interests and offering them and other relevant stakeholders a range of services.

Second, (with a trigger warning) a story told to the Birmingham Mail by Nabila Sharma (that's Birmingham UK).
My Imam abused me nearly every day for four years at the local mosque
17 Mar 2013 09:10
Midland Muslim woman was sexually assaulted regularly between the age of 7 and 11.

I WAS abused almost every day between the ages of seven and 11.

My abuser was the leader of my mosque, the Imam.

One day, he asked me to come to his room, as he lived at the mosque.

I found this strange, but he said I could read to him and get ahead with my prayers before the others arrived.

Inside his room, he began touching my face and stroking my hair, telling me what a pretty little girl I was.

I was only seven, I didn’t understand what he was doing other than I knew I didn’t like it. It made me uncomfortable.


Third, (trigger warning) Hinduism is not immune witness this story from the Vancouver Sun-Sentinel.
Drum teacher at Hindu temple sentenced to life in prison for child sex abuse
A religious guru and music teacher was legally declared a sexual predator and sentenced to life in prison Thursday afternoon for repeatedly abusing a 10-year-old student during her weekly drum lessons.

/snip

The girl, now 14, testified that Munshi, 49, molested her, forced her to perform oral sex and masturbated in front of her.

Before the judge imposed the mandatory life sentence, prosecutor Mary Ann Braun read a letter from the victim's family: "You are a far cry from the word guru [religious teacher]. Words cannot describe the pain, agony and mental torture you have brought upon my family and most of all a happy-go-lucky, beautiful and loving child."


Other cases are recorded by the Muslim Womens Network for for abuse of Asian women and girls and by Failed Messiah. Please note that Failed Messiah is, despite being written by Jews for Jews, regarded by some in the Jewish community as a hate site.
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not limited to religious leaders.. pipoman Nov 2013 #1
This post is specifically about one area of the child abuse problem intaglio Nov 2013 #3
In each of the cases I cited pipoman Nov 2013 #8
Please check my post #7 on response to rug intaglio Nov 2013 #10
Also a problem especially for those who are convinced skepticscott Nov 2013 #12
The difference is skepticscott Nov 2013 #6
As stated above.. pipoman Nov 2013 #9
Which does not address my point skepticscott Nov 2013 #11
This is true. rug Nov 2013 #2
Check my reply #3 n/t intaglio Nov 2013 #4
Ok. rug Nov 2013 #5
In this case it is the reinforcement of trust intaglio Nov 2013 #7
+1. It will be interesting to see what kind of a response you get, if at all. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #15
Or maybe I'll just make some indirect commoents about you to another poster. rug Nov 2013 #16
Turkey is fitting. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #21
The case that religious scripture approves child sexual abuse is quite weak. rug Nov 2013 #17
The text with which we are both most familiar is the Bible intaglio Nov 2013 #18
There's no derailment at all. You received a direct response, rug Nov 2013 #19
I have deliberately avoided saying something "unique and peculiar" intaglio Nov 2013 #20
You have, however, implied that there is something about religion that makes it worse than elsewhere rug Nov 2013 #22
No, I have said that those who claim moral superiority intaglio Nov 2013 #24
Do I understand you to say that the incidence of CSA is the same in religions as it outside? rug Nov 2013 #25
I made no claims about incidence or frequency compared to other groups intaglio Nov 2013 #30
I get you. rug Nov 2013 #33
Police seem to do better when their actions are constantly recorded. We ought to adapt that system dimbear Nov 2013 #31
Did you ever hear of a sting tape? rug Nov 2013 #32
I see the value of that, but it's one sided. The constant surveillance works both ways, it dimbear Nov 2013 #34
And yet it's still a HUUUUUGE christian problem. Iggo Nov 2013 #13
I think it is because there is more publicity about the Christian side of things intaglio Nov 2013 #14
Here's how it boils down. Religious folks trust their leaders too much, don't keep tabs on them, dimbear Nov 2013 #23
And why do they trust their leaders too much? skepticscott Nov 2013 #26
No doubt about it. dimbear Nov 2013 #29
No, it's not. Sexual predators, especially the ones who prey on children, Warpy Nov 2013 #27
sorry to say every religion does this DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #28
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