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caseymoz

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19. We just have different terms.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:41 AM
Apr 2012

Last edited Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:44 PM - Edit history (1)

To be perfectly accurate, people living in both the Middle and Dark Ages used the term "Middle age" as the name of their times, for a completely different reason than we do. It referred to the times between Christ's Ascension and the Second Coming. So, I use the terms interchangeably even though I know there's a huge difference between the High Middle Ages and the Dark Ages, but the latter was the beginnings of the feudal system that reached fruition in the former.

You have to expect a fiction writer to simplify the system for the modern reader, who is not going to earn a degree just for the honor of reading a writer's fiction. For one thing, if you think lawyers have made everything complicated today, law was just complicated in the Middle Ages, and required plenty of lawyers.

The main social difference between then and now is the concept of individual rights and liberties. People in those systems from top to bottom were born into a network of social obligations, vassal to lord, lord to vassal, lord to king, and vice-versa. The society was made of a network of these, and it would take a Pope to release somebody from them, and it did take a Pope in the case of Leonardo da Vinci.

I'm skeptical that the people in England are all descended from the upper classes. For one thing, genealogists would have been able to determine this long ago, and it would now be common knowledge, impossible to miss. For another, surnames like "Miller," "Baker" and "Smith" would be extinct in England if that were true. You should look at compelling, novel observations critically.

Don't worry, a lot of them will die. Martin kills a lot of people. One death in particular had me iris27 Jan 2012 #1
Which one had you applauding? shawn703 May 2012 #20
I tried it too, also cannot stand the characters theAntiRand Jan 2012 #2
Well like I said I'm a fan of Bran and Edward Stark. white_wolf Jan 2012 #3
Tyrion kicks ass XemaSab Jan 2012 #6
Tyrion is also my favorite Onceuponalife Jan 2012 #12
A lot of the story arcs come full circle XemaSab Jan 2012 #4
I know exactly who you are bored with. white_wolf Apr 2012 #15
The person I was bored with isn't much in either of the last two books XemaSab Apr 2012 #16
I can't wait to get to it. I've missed Daenarys and Tyrion. white_wolf Apr 2012 #18
Don't worry, everybody dies. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #5
It is being turned into a video game. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #7
To apologize for the characters caseymoz Jan 2012 #8
You are right about them being authentic. white_wolf Jan 2012 #9
Tolkien copied what was basically medieval propaganda caseymoz Jan 2012 #10
Feudal culture was more complicated than the black-on-black world displayed by Martin or Herbert. Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #17
We just have different terms. caseymoz Apr 2012 #19
I think a lot of what makes it so compelling and so horrifying is the authenticity XemaSab Jan 2012 #11
As you go through the series NewJeffCT Jan 2012 #13
Absolutely! FloridaJudy Apr 2012 #14
I LOVE Leigh Butler's blog summary and commentary on the series Matariki Jul 2012 #21
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I am fan of Kalisee Samanta Oct 2013 #23
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #24
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