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NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
4. I guess this is a thread as good as any others...
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jul 2013

But I was disturbed/confused by a few things about Obama's speech and I think it parallels to this article somewhat

But I did want to just talk a little bit about context and how people have responded to it and how people are feeling.

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And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there's a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it's important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn't go away.

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And I don't want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida.

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And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case.

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And so the fact that sometimes that's unacknowledged adds to the frustration. And the fact that a lot of African American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse is given, well, there are these statistics out there that show that African American boys are more violent — using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently causes pain.

But they get frustrated, I think, if they feel that there's no context for it and that context is being denied.


I don't know. Isn't everyone with a brain frustrated, white people included? Why is Obama making excuses for black people being angry about this situation and this trial? Isn't he perpetuating a social myth of them being "frustrated" victims that do not think entirely rational because of their history of victimization? Shouldn't everyone be frustrated? Why does this fully matter in terms of justice not being served, as it was not?

Maybe I hear things differently but the entire time Obama was talking about this it seems like he was telling white people why black people are angry, and almost apologizing for them making a "big deal" out of this trial.

Im white. Im pretty pissed about the entire matter. Maybe I misunderstood Obama. I didn't think Obama had to spell this out; its his right to, don't get me wrong. I didn't think he had to explain "frustration", and attribute it solely to black people (thinking people are frustrated...this case isn't about black people having a "special" perception of these events which pretty objectively shows a racists murderer was freed due to racists on the jury). Someone talk me down here, but it just seems a bit like he was apologizing for a group that he didn't need to so us white folk wouldn't be annoyed anymore
i agree...racism is not a "black" problem noiretextatique Jul 2013 #1
Thank-You I appreciate your reply. HoosierRadical Jul 2013 #2
well...it is a good article noiretextatique Jul 2013 #23
Agree. peacebird Jul 2013 #3
I guess this is a thread as good as any others... NoOneMan Jul 2013 #4
I've been wondering YarnAddict Jul 2013 #6
Is the fact pipoman Jul 2013 #8
No coincidence (IMHO) YarnAddict Jul 2013 #10
There have been many cases won years later.. pipoman Jul 2013 #11
True, hadn't thought of that YarnAddict Jul 2013 #12
Yep.. pipoman Jul 2013 #13
Question. NOLALady Jul 2013 #18
We can't explain... it's not our responsibility. M0rpheus Jul 2013 #19
Obama is a lawyer..he said what he meant..he understands pipoman Jul 2013 #7
i think you got it completely wrong noiretextatique Jul 2013 #21
K & R! LeftofObama Jul 2013 #5
I'm not African-American Jane Austin Jul 2013 #9
Yeah as long as you aren't trolling. JRLeft Jul 2013 #15
K&R A LOOOOT of black folks have been asking this question for a long damn time Number23 Jul 2013 #14
From the article JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #17
JAG, he probably wasn't lying. Number23 Jul 2013 #25
denial is a chief benefit of white privilege, noiretextatique Jul 2013 #22
Have you seen the Washington Post article on the racial divide caused by the verdict? Number23 Jul 2013 #26
we have an example noiretextatique Jul 2013 #32
#1 denial rhat whites Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #27
sorry...no dice noiretextatique Jul 2013 #31
Oh my God. You just KILLED it Number23 Jul 2013 #34
sick and tired noiretextatique Aug 2013 #36
Denial IS a chief benefit of white privilege, a very important point to be made. kwassa Jul 2013 #33
agreed noiretextatique Aug 2013 #37
Another kick and rec JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #16
K&R, because why should I feel guilty for their willful ignorance. JRLeft Jul 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Sissyk Jul 2013 #24
I was disappointed jurors did not fight harder for a just verdict, they had the Hoyt Jul 2013 #28
Another one is ready to talk JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #35
Great OP ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #29
some heaven05 Jul 2013 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #38
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #39
Why not? Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #40
uggh. where's my fly swatter? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #41
To My Black Brother & Sisters About "indiewire.com" Jam134 Oct 2013 #42
Thanks! JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #43
Racism unclesammysays Oct 2013 #44
Racism towards blacks seems to be something that is very deeply ingrained in white American culture. Flatulo Nov 2013 #45
Great post. But there are few people of color that are in any way interested in a "color-blind Number23 Dec 2013 #46
Maybe 'color-blind' is the wrong phrase. It does sound a bit dated. Flatulo Dec 2013 #47
Yes, your explanation is much better than the concept of "color blindness" Number23 Dec 2013 #48
That reminds me of something funny... I love it when racists learn that they have African DNA Flatulo Dec 2013 #49
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