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FrenchieCat

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Fri Jan 13, 2012, 07:37 PM Jan 2012

Tim Wise gives "certain" Progressives a piece of his mind....... [View all]

Of Broken Clocks, Presidential Candidates, and the Confusion of Certain White Liberals
Posted on January 12, 2012


...the so-called progressives who sing the praises of Ron Paul, all because of his views on domestic spying, bailouts for banksters, and military intervention abroad, the fact that 90 percent of his political platform is right-wing boilerplate about slashing taxes on the rich, slashing programs for the poor and working class, breaking unions, drilling for oil anywhere and everywhere, and privatizing everything from retirement programs to health care doesn’t matter: the fact that he’ll ostensibly legalize drugs is enough. And this is so, even though he has merely said he would leave drug laws up to the states (which means 49 separate drug wars, everywhere except maybe Vermont, so ya know, congrats hippies!), and he would oppose spending public money on drug rehab or education, both of which you’d need more of if drugs were legalized, but why let little details like that bother you?
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I want those of you who are seriously singing Paul’s praises, while calling yourself progressive or left to ask what it signifies — not about Ron Paul, but about you — that you can look the rest of us in the eye, your political colleagues and allies, and say, in effect, “Well, he might be a little racist, but…

How do you think that sounds to black people, without whom no remotely progressive candidate stands a chance of winning shit in this country at a national level? How does it sound to them — a group that has been more loyal to progressive and left politics than any group in this country — when you praise a man who opposes probably the single most important piece of legislation ever passed in this country, and whose position on the right of businesses to discriminate, places him on the side of the segregated lunchcounter owners? And how do you think they take it that you praise this man, or possibly even support him for president, all so as to teach the black guy currently in the office a lesson for failing to live up to your expectations?

How do you think it sounds to them, right now, this week, as we prepare to mark the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, that you claim to be progressive, and yet you are praising or even encouraging support for a man who voted against that holiday, who opposes almost every aspect of King’s public policy agenda, and the crowning achievements of the movement he helped lead?

My guess is that you don’t think about this at all. Because you don’t have to. One guess as to why not.

More.....(quite a long piece! ) http://www.timwise.org/2012/01/of-broken-clocks-presidential-candidates-and-the-confusion-of-certain-white-liberals/
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this is such an excellent article SemperEadem Jan 2012 #1
He always gives that "certain" very SPECIAL group of folks a smack right in the forehead Number23 Jan 2012 #2
Perspective: Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #5
Perspective for whom? Farrakhan never ran for president or any elected office Number23 Jan 2012 #6
"As Coates admits, even many blacks never liked Farrakhan" Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #8
It is your opinion that this is "head shoulders and then some above what Wise wrote" Number23 Jan 2012 #9
Provide what information? Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #10
It is clear that you have missed Wise's point and you seem to have missed Coates' as well Number23 Jan 2012 #12
Really? Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #13
Do you not realize where you are? Number23 Jan 2012 #14
"This is the AA forum. Most of the participants in this thread are black." Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #15
And now we get to the crux of the matter Number23 Jan 2012 #16
Well, I don't know Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #17
LOL You should be embarrassed but that would involve a measure of honesty and self-awareness Number23 Jan 2012 #18
. nofurylike Jan 2012 #19
This poster had a post hidden in another thread where he went after ANOTHER black poster Number23 Jan 2012 #24
i see it. nofurylike Jan 2012 #25
How interesting Number23 Jan 2012 #26
i agree. it is surreal and indecent. on that note, i have been wondering, nofurylike Jan 2012 #27
Yep, you're supposed to alert using the button on each of the posts Number23 Jan 2012 #29
thank you, Number23! i will start alerting offenses. nofurylike Jan 2012 #30
No, he doesn't represent all white liberals, and that's a good thing. Plantsmantx Jan 2012 #20
Keep posting. I encourage it. The hole you dig with each post gets deeper and deeper Number23 Jan 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author SemperEadem Jan 2012 #28
thank you so very much for posting this outstanding article!! nofurylike Jan 2012 #3
Hey there! FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #4
Hey there, You! nofurylike Jan 2012 #7
Interesting Article... onpatrol98 Jan 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Alien Nation Refugee Jan 2012 #21
The Case Against Ron Paul Alien Nation Refugee Jan 2012 #22
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