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spin

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19. I oppose any form of registration because of some of the recent comments by those on your side ...
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:44 PM
Dec 2012

many of whom had advocated banning and confiscating all firearms.

Senator Dianne Feinstein's newly purposed assault weapons ban suggests banning semi-auto pistols with magazines that would hold more than 10 rounds. The normal sized magazine for my Colt 1911 .45acp pistol is 7 rounds but I can buy aftermarket magazines that hold up to 15 rounds.

Here's Why Dianne Feinstein's Assault Weapons Ban Might Actually Work Dec. 28, 2012, 11:53 AM

***snip***

In response to criticism over the arguably flawed semiautomatic weapons law, Feinstein is introducing what The New York Times called in an editorial today "a tougher assault weapons ban."

Here are some key ways Feinstein says her ban would be tougher than the old one:

While the old law banned 18 specific types of weapons by name, Feinstein's law would ban 120 specifically-named firearms.
Unlike the old law, Feinstein's proposal would ban semiautomatic weapons and handguns with fixed magazines that can accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition, effectively making it tougher for gunmen to shoot at large groups of people quickly....emphasis added
http://www.businessinsider.com/dianne-feinsteins-assault-weapons-ban-2012-12


I have no problem with the government knowing that I own firearms as I have a concealed weapons permit.

I have a major problem with the government knowing exactly what firearms I own as that data might be used if ever a law were to pass that allows banning and confiscation. Admittedly the chances of such a law passing are slim at the best.

Firearm registration is illegal in my state of Florida for the following excellent reasons:



2011 Florida Statutes

790.335?Prohibition of registration of firearms; electronic records.—
(1)?LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS AND INTENT.—
(a)?The Legislature finds and declares that:
1.?The right of individuals to keep and bear arms is guaranteed under both the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and s. 8, Art. I of the State Constitution.
2.?A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a law enforcement tool and can become an instrument for profiling, harassing, or abusing law-abiding citizens based on their choice to own a firearm and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution. Further, such a list, record, or registry has the potential to fall into the wrong hands and become a shopping list for thieves.
3.?A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a tool for fighting terrorism, but rather is an instrument that can be used as a means to profile innocent citizens and to harass and abuse American citizens based solely on their choice to own firearms and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution.
4.?Law-abiding firearm owners whose names have been illegally recorded in a list, record, or registry are entitled to redress.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/790.335


Unlike many gun owners I feel that laws concerning the concealed carry of weapons is best kept at the state level. Allowing the federal government to regulate concealed carry law could possibly lead to extremely high fees or draconian requirements that could limit concealed carry to the rich and those with the time to take long courses.

Let's make a deal... [View all] DanTex Dec 2012 OP
I could live with this compromise. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #1
I'd be willing to roll back local assault weapons bans. DanTex Dec 2012 #3
How would registration work? rrneck Dec 2012 #2
I don't know. DanTex Dec 2012 #5
In light of... Puha Ekapi Dec 2012 #4
Extremists always claim to speak for the "majority" of gun owners. DanTex Dec 2012 #6
It's not fanaticism... Puha Ekapi Dec 2012 #9
To understand this correctly, those who purchased shotguns, rifles,... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #7
Correct. DanTex Dec 2012 #10
I think you over-estimate the importance of national concealed carry. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #8
"ban lifts:" Do you envision all arms designed to be held & operated in one or both arms? Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #13
I was referring to rifles, pistols, and shotguns aikoaiko Dec 2012 #17
Maybe. On the other hand, for people who think of guns as a real civil rights issue, DanTex Dec 2012 #15
Other considerations... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #11
Licensing and registration of new guns or all existing? (ie: grandfather old guns?) OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #12
All existing guns. No door-to-door searches. DanTex Dec 2012 #14
Honestly, I'd probably only register about 75% of my guns at first. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #16
Umm... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #31
I don't have any guns. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #18
I oppose any form of registration because of some of the recent comments by those on your side ... spin Dec 2012 #19
I would support that, and even some variations of give or take on it. That's a good middle-road AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #20
No thanks... I'll pass. -..__... Dec 2012 #21
I like your approach, DanTex Pullo Dec 2012 #22
I would want a few more items added to the list ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #23
what about pistols gejohnston Dec 2012 #25
Harder call...factory magazine capacity comes to mind ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #27
for antiques like the C-96 gejohnston Dec 2012 #28
In principle I agree. One detail. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #24
This might be costly loyalkydem Dec 2012 #26
Somebody's watched a bit too much James Bond... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #29
or worldwide for that matter gejohnston Dec 2012 #30
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