Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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14. if they provide it volunteerly and

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:28 PM

Dec 2012

illegally, but all means. But jailing victims of theft, like Canada does (or at least tries to since juries nullify if it goes to trial), is total nonsense.

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As a gun owner, these are the steps I support to reduce gun violence [View all] shadowrider Dec 2012 OP

Sounds reasonable atreides1 Dec 2012 #1

many states have hunting regulations that limit you to five round gejohnston Dec 2012 #4

Unless they are bought back, which would cost one helluva lot less than a cop in every school Kennah Dec 2012 #7

Suggestions fail on some important points _Liann_ Dec 2012 #37

some good points, however gejohnston Dec 2012 #39

I generally support most of that as well petronius Dec 2012 #2

I like most of your ideas. gejohnston Dec 2012 #3

yes, these are good. #3 is most excellent. #2 is weakly reasoned but, it makes people feel good and Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #5

All good, but I see none of them being effective. Basically feel-good lip service. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #6

A semiauto ban is much more straightforward .... Pullo Dec 2012 #8

I agree. That's why they need to be trackable and owners need to be accountable. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #11

how are the owners not accountalble? gejohnston Dec 2012 #12

They are not accountable when their guns are stolen and used by others to kill. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #13

if they provide it volunteerly and gejohnston Dec 2012 #14

Holding people accountable for gross negligence is not jailing victims. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #15

having a 500 pound safe is not gross negligence gejohnston Dec 2012 #16

I disagree. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #17

You love those backdoor defacto bans, don't you? hack89 Dec 2012 #18

No, I like people to be responsible when they own objects designed to kill. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #20

People can't afford thousand dollar safes hack89 Dec 2012 #21

Gun ownership already is too expensive for many, including me. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #24

Heller says dismantlement cannot be mandated hack89 Dec 2012 #26

I'm not talking about one gun that you may need. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #29

So one or two guns being stolen is ok? nt hack89 Dec 2012 #30

Nope, but easier to keep an eye on. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #34

pawn shops have to comply gejohnston Dec 2012 #32

Good, then they should never lose any guns. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #36

not if they follow the law gejohnston Dec 2012 #38

no gejohnston Dec 2012 #28

Poor rural gun owners tend to secure their guns pretty well Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #31

Maybe because poor people can still exboyfil Dec 2012 #33

Then one gun should suffice. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #35

Perhaps government subsidies for low income gun enthusiasts could help this rbixby Dec 2012 #40

then you would have to specify that in the law gejohnston Dec 2012 #22

Each case should be judged on it's own merits. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #27

what you are advocating is having gejohnston Dec 2012 #19

I'm not concerned with Canada or stealing cars. All deflections. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #23

not at all gejohnston Dec 2012 #25

"A true AWB ban would ban all semi-automatics" Kennah Dec 2012 #9

More training for concealed carry as the law and use of force is often lacking from training Kennah Dec 2012 #10

I agree with all your points. ... spin Dec 2012 #41